then there is bonnie couuti coming in late ,dumber than a bag og rocks yet she is watching over our finances , give me a break, she is mean and stupid .

Bonnie Couuti also fired from Tobey Hospital

bobo is a moron

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I Just Want To Scream At The Top Of My Lungs Sometimes , Why Is  John Donahues  Cronies Screwing Up Wareham So Bad For The 2nd Time In Warehams History, I Call On The Selectmen To Call Inthe Dor.

I don't know how this thread got so far off track, but the fact is...LISTEN to the Fin. Com. They are truly representing you, and it is their job to separate the nonsense from that which is really needed.

I don't see ONE article that I would vote for that the Fin. Comm. discussed.

Not ONE!

Either will they.

There is a reason...the Town is mismanaged and is lacking leadership. The responsibility now falls on YOUR shoulders at Town Meeting.

PLEASE...be there and don't allow this crap to continue.

Listen to the FinCom is good advice, Dan.  It was a source of great frustration for me when I was sitting on the FinCom that no one seemed to be paying attention to our discussions and the information we uncovered but had no authority to do anything with.  Fincom's job is to "study, review and report."  They can only recommend - it is up to others to do something about it.  Thanks Dave for posting the videos!

RE:  Bonnie Cottuli - regardless of the fact the she and I often disagreed, she is very intelligent and did her homework/ background research on the issues she was covering.  I have a great deal of respect for her dedication to Fincom.  Commitment members give up a lot of hours to sit in uncomfortable chairs and listen to tedious discussions.  And their reward?  Being ridiculed and insulted. This site would get a whole lot more respect if criticism was aimed at ignorance of issues rather than personal attacks.

It is a great forum for educating outselves but the slurs get tedious.  (Except for Bill who impresses me with his creative use of the English language!)

Marilyn  -  I am a big fan of finance committees  -  in all towns. In most towns in which I have been involved, the Fincom may incite disagreements among various factions, but I don't recall insults & ridicule in those venues. It is indeed sad if that is the situation in Wareham, as the FinCom is a worthy body whose opinion(s) ought to be respected by the taxpayers/voters of the Town.

I have implored the former chairman to televise the Fincom meetings. The fact that they are recorded for future broadcast is certainly a positive step....but not enuf. Perhaps some of the disdain for the Fincom as you cite it, is due to the appearance (not the reality, of course) that you operate in secret, springing your votes and opinions on an unsuspecting body of voters. Your meetings are open, and I suspect, woefully underattended. Which is not the way the system can work properly. Ergo, televise them - LIVE.

Regarding the issue of timing of info from the esteemed (a legend in his own mind) T/A, I have reviewed the Town Charter and find no reference to timing deadlines for the fall TM. The Spring Town Meeting has well-defined  time frames. Perhaps a Charter change is in order.

But: The DOR certifies Free Cash as of July 1.....but the actual certification can be well after that date. The DOR approves the Town's Schedule A (an accounting summary) as  of July 1. It would help if there was, yaknow, an actual accountant there. Even so, the Sch A can take some time. There are other factors. It all adds up to some difficulty in knowing where the Town stands financially going into a fall Town meeting as regards money articles.

In all of this, it is the FinCom which can lead the charge to achieve transparency in the Town's finances (transparency?  -  the word has a familiar ring). Support your Local FinCom!

Marilyn C. Donahue wrote:

We did not resort to insults (unless you consider the terms "liberal" and "conservative" insults), ridicule or personal attacks and we could shake hands at the end of every meeting.

Well, duh! Winning! Mix it up, appoint Brenda, Jane or Bruce to the board and we'll have WHDH's satellite action news van camped at Multiservice permanently. Charge rent and more for amenities like blow driers, toilet privileges and senior wheel meals. There's cash money for a new cruiser right there!

Aye, I did a Billy Connolly video vegathon last night and it's either complete nonsense or Wareham Tourretts, for which there's no known cure. I run into Cindy Parola this afternoon, I'm a goner.

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Stewie (that would be me) wrote:

"Marilyn  -  I am a big fan of finance committees  -  in all towns. In most towns in which I have been involved, the Fincom may incite disagreements among various factions, but I don't recall insults & ridicule in those venues. It is indeed sad if that is the situation in Wareham, as the FinCom is a worthy body whose opinion(s) ought to be respected by the taxpayers/voters of the Town."

Marilyn, please accept my apology for sloppy language. I was not referring to discord within the FinCom, among its members; but rather to the proponents/opponents of a particular article. Westfield, for example. In my opinion, vigorous debate by the FinCom benefits the entire Town, as does the ability to shake hands afterward.

But your linking of "autonomy" to live TV broadcasts puzzles me a bit. particularly in light of the comment that "getting the word out is tough".

It would seem to me that live TV would go a long way to getting the word out,  to the benefit of all. The FinCom is a difficult, time-consuming, thankless job. Let the voters/taxpayers see & hear your debates on the Town Meeting warrant articles. There is nothing to lose & much to gain.

the finance  commitee should not be polictal, we should have people  who know finances  on the commitee and you should not get a apoiment to the finance commitee because your a politacal hack.

Thank you all for the informative posts!

To Stewie - my personal objection to the live broadcast was to sitting in the seats of the BOS.....I would have had to to burn so much sage the sprinklers would be going off. 

To Redrobin - Bonnie may have been appointed because of her political connections, but her votes sure didn't reflect that.  She always researched her topics and made informed decisions.  And it is nice to have a balance to some of the brilliant intellectuals on the fincom who understand the financials, but can't always articulate well enough so that us regular folk can understand.

Bill - interesting idea, which I have heard tossed around in lots of venues and with a variety of topics.    But since we can't find anyone considered neutral enough to referee (and we couldn't provide enough protection anyway) not sure it can really happen. Yet. Someday.  It would certainly be better to have the debates somewhere other than TM floor when we are trying to conduct business.

To be clear to all - I am not longer on the Finance Committee, but have offered to work with the current board as unoffical "PR."  So I am happy to step in to correct misconceptions and interpret debate.

FINCOM MEETING TONITE  WED. 9/28  at 6:30 PM   MULTISERVICE CENTER  ROOM 228.   Warrant articles and capital items to be discussed. All are welcome.

First, I'm not going to hide behind a fake name, and it's Cottuli, a name my husband is very proud of so at least have the dignity to spell it correctly.  It's easy for you, redrobin, to sit on the sidelines and insult a person trying to make a difference for this town.  Do you really think I enjoy taking time away from my family and friends to attend endless meeting, looking for solutions to endless problems?  I don't!
Next, I was never appointed for political reasons.  Prior to my appointment I didn't even know the names of the Board of Selectman members.  I, like so many other citizens, was happy in ignorance of what went on in this town until I attended the infamous Town Meeting where the entire FinCom quit.  Yes, I have been an advocate of the reform of the sewer enterprise fund for a very long time.  Was I selected for that reason? Yes!  But as a sewer user I want to know what I'm paying for, and I don't want to pay twice for the same service while others pay nothing for the protection of their beautiful beaches.  I have said from the start, "show me what it really costs and I'll pay it."
Next, beansdaddy82, my dismissal from Tobey hospital is a confidentiality issue, and if you are aware of it then someone is in violation of breaking that agreement.  However, I will be making a public statement on this issue at the next FinCom meeting, so maybe you'd like to attend.  If the FinCom and/or the appointing authority feel as though I should be removed, they can certainly tell me so.  However, I was not appointed because I am one of the town's greatest financial minds, we already have several of those.  I was appointed to give a different view.  The view of the average, hard working, struggling, middle income family that comprise the majority of our citizenship.  I am neither a moron or an idiot!  And if you don't like my loud mouth, don't listen.  I speak my mind, I tell the truth, and I don't sugar coat it.
Lastly, Mr Whitehouse, although you will probably ban me from your blog and delete my entry, just as you have banned 99% of your membership listed, you are not a journalist, you are a suck on society.  Do something that helps, stop stirring up more hate.

Bonnie Jean Cottuli

BonnieCottuli wrote:

Lastly, Mr Whitehouse, although you will probably ban me from your blog and delete my entry, just as you have banned 99% of your membership listed, you are not a journalist, you are a suck on society.  Do something that helps, stop stirring up more hate.

Bonnie Jean Cottuli

I banned all user names - as you observed, still there for all to see - when I relaunched last January asking everyone to create new accounts employing their real names if at all possible. You probably blew past that message when you registered. No harm. I tend to ignore preambles myself.

I have deleted two accounts since January; both recently and both for cause. For as far back as I care remember, the word journalist served as a synonym for charlatan. 

The rest of your rant - that's what it is, right? - is itself a textbook example of hate, especially directed at someone who's never once mentioned your name here.

I have lampooned your abrasive speaking style, privately, among friends, but I yield to the better mimics among us. You don't want to play asshole with this crowd. They're pros.

So speak your heart, Bonnie, but leave the generic insults at home, ok?

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