I think there is a line that can't be crossed as far as libel goes. Putting your libelous comments under an "opinion" column doesn't always make it legal.  There have been plenty of cases where people have been sued for doing exactly what we see in this article, and have won.

I agree, as always, to ignore the "testicularly challenged moron" but I have a feeling that some of the people who have been libeled and defamed will not stand for this.  And I don't blame them. Being accused of being part of an embezzlement scheme is pretty serious stuff.

This is a man, who in long ago articles wrote about his faith and God etc. I think he should start praying, because this article broke a few commandments and judgment day will come to us all.  And remember, he has to live with himself--that has to be some form of punishment.

I hope his daughters never learn the verb "to google" because they won't be too proud of Daddy when they get old enough to  understand how he single-handedly destroyed some good and honest people with his lies.

It hasn't been easy for me to ignore the writing of a guy who has tried to paint my wife as a "misappropriator of public funds", but I'm quite sure that  if someone villified my mother  as Slager has with Mary Jane, I'd be asking my friends to keep an eye on me.   

  Actually, a law suit supported by public donations might be good therapy for the family and  also run The Poisoner out of town before someone gets hurt.  This is a "black powder and lighted match" situation....  and you can be sure that our WPD  professionals are very aware of it....Slager is on a quest for martyrdom.

We all give "lip service" to ignoring this guy...I'm a prime example...I no longer engage him, but the evil he continues  to spread keeps  me pretty close to the boiling point 24/7.

I visited mrs Pillsbury's grave today to pay respects and I noticed that someone had dropped off a bouquet of flowers. They were fresh and probably put their someday today. I'm sure it had to do with slagers article. I thought what a shame what is going on. She is in her final resting spot and some asshole is still writing lies about her because of his sick obssesion. What kind of human being does this? I can't even begin to fathom what her family is going through right now. This woman spent most of her life serving the town whether building a top notch library for the community or serving over a decade as a selectman. This is how she is treated by a nutcase. I urge everyone to boycott his paper now and refuse to do business at any store that sells or advertises with his paper. This town cannot take anymore from him.

Ham,
I would like to add another name to the list. John Donahue. If you read the article, you will find,

Donahue threatened to sue me. I did my best to calm him down. After awhile he began to tell me about all the dirty political games played in Wareham. He told me that a lot of “funny stuff” was happening at the library. He also warned me about Corbitt. He said he had run against her husband for state representative and that the Corbitts were clearly in Mary Jane Pillsbury’s corner.

Now, if anyone knows about the political games, it would be the current President of the Wareham Dems! Ask him about the phone calls made JUST before town meeting urging voters to vote yes on article 2(Westfield) or they would lose senior housing...hmmmm

Donahue is culpable here too. I think we should make a concerted effort to make sure he never gets another opportunity to be elected.

TO be honest, this is exactly what happens when you have a group of people who have political ambitions and do not have the ability to back them up. They make mistakes, try to smooth them over with political spin, and end up making it worse. IMO, the Donahues are just as much to blame for the problems in this town as Bobo the RagClown. Look at the team they have assembled!

It's time to pay attention to the man behind the curtain....

From Bobo the Lunatic Scumbag's Jeer of Steve Urbon:

Steve Urbon - The Standard-Times reporter actually called us on Wednesday asking us for our sources to the library scandal story. So, after conducting a two-year investigation we’re supposed to turn our work over to Steve Urbon so he can write a story about it in a day? Is this guy for real? There must be some locked gate somewhere in Wareham he can write about.

That, and Mr. Urbon, Bobo the Douchebag can't share made-up sources that don't exist with you because then he would be exposed to the world as a fraud.  Ever notice Bobo's liberal use of made up anonymous sources?  Anonymous fake Cape Verdeans complaining about Bob Brady's meeting?  Anonymous fake sources smearing Susan Williams Gifford?  Anonymous fake columnist "Paul Shooter?" Now anonymous fake sources smearing Mrs. Pillsbury?  It looks like the fake "non-existent, made up "anonymous source" is the oldest trick in Bobo's book.  Whenever he wants to smear and lie about the reputation of someone he considers a threat to his BOS masters that carry him in his back pocket, he makes up a fake anonymous source.

I'm not for censorship, but the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) should have laws that would sanction stuff like this when it is complete unadulterated manufactured horse shit (which, by the way, Bobo is lower than the mold growing on said horse shit).

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Message to ragboy. I think you missed the point. Those of us who read the ST for the real news, know that REAL REPORTERS don't write huge overwhelming accusations without naming their sources for credibility. I think maybe Steve U. was pointing out the fact that your "fiction" piece was just that without reliable sources.

Only morons and idiots believe everything they read or hear. Intelligent people ask for proof.  Read one of Urbon's articles and you see real quotes from real people. You see quotes from both sides of an issue. You see actual copies of documents on the ST site and get to hear the famous 6 minute exec. session tape. Do they blog?

And is ragboy saying it is ok for a town to spend 2 mill plus on Swifts Beach only to keep it locked? Where is the justice for his beloved Wareham in that?? If it wasn't Brucie's front lawn he'd be screaming bloody murder for the lack of access to the taxpayers. Google this--hypocrisy.

In my opinion, since I don't know Steve, I'd say the jeer is right back at ya raggie. I think he's sending you the message that you're not a real journalist.

He's gonna ride this as far as he can..

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Hey Ham,

Don't forget the anonymous "Town Hall" source. surely such a source ought to be putting as much distance from the BoBo as possible. I wonder if the custodian of the health care trust fund now regrets aligning himself with the whacked-out harlot of Halifax, having delivered his only "interview" to the ragboy?

Despite Slager's previous SLAPP victory, this story is completely different, despite the "editorial" heading.

Slager is presenting his story as fact, not opinion.

He is accussing 123+ people of a SERIOUS FELONY.  This is not Slager calling someone a bad manager! This is not Slager saying a court or was ignored! As was the case with Joyce.

This is someone presenting as fact that hundreds of people commuted a felony!  Including the DA, who he said is covering it up.

With ZERO proof, Slager is shit out of luck with any judge.

Apples and oranges here. Slager is in serious trouble.

Molly,     Wareham IS grand.  Our beautiful town with 54 miles of coastline is not in the crapper.  Near - but not in. We beed to keep the pressure on.

The Donahue family has been throwing parties and entertaining for years to lead up to better "positions of respect".  They do have a lot of friends that will back them.  They used to be Donahue name droppers.  "Oh, yes, they were so nice to invite me to their party so I will vote for them with no political knowledge, but they included me, so I will vote."  I would hope by now that some of their little followers would be embarrassed by the notoriety they are rec'g.  Next vote - NO DONAHUE'S.

For the most part, the people of Wareham are great and concerned and unhappy with the current town hall seat holders, If I may.  The people doing the harm are like a small cell of terrorists, but on the outside - everything they do is FOR THE BETTERMENT OF WAREHAM.  Haven't they bettered all communication between citizens and the BOS?  Haven't they done a great job stealing money from the school dept.'s health care fund?  Haven't they kept all executive sessions completely private, with no leaks?  Haven't they done a great job with the Library, it's board of trustees and the Friends?  Haven't they listened intently to the voting citizens at town meeting?  Haven't they helped the stupid TM voters by putting our mistakes on the voting ballot for April?  Haven't they made sure everything was done legally by having K&P at their beck and call?  Haven't they donated the town's money to K&P to keep them in business? Haven't they given us a part time Chief of Police from 80 miles away? Haven't they allowed this PT Chief to use funds to make the cops happy? Haven't they allowed him to give the cops range training and fixed an old room up for a training room?  Haven't they forgotten that some of that money was put aside for a rainy day, so no one would be eliminated due to lack of $?  Haven't they let him use this money that has been put aside for new cruisers when a safety isssue is at hand?  I could go on, but I won't.  It's making me sick.

Did you know that they are considering making our Harbor Master's position part time?  After all, we only have 54 miles of coastline to protect, not to mention the rivers, streams and ponds - many large, the herring run and helping boaters in danger, etc, etc.  They are always thinking of us, the voters of Wareham.  If it works in Mattapoisett (it isn't) then it should work here.  Mattapoisett has 18 miles of coastline.  Duh!

Wareham is near the edge of the crapper due to a minority of people.  We need to reach everyone in town to vote, be active in town affairs and put on paper what this group has done.  This isn't about Rep.s or Dem's.  This is about right and wrong.  We have to get this info out of this site and onto the street and into the homes of residents, voters or not.

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Who else but Bobo would describe the Rag like this?

The defendant Observer is a "small, local, independent, grass-roots, advocacy-oriented newspaper," whose mission is the "pursuit of better government for Wareham residents." It reports on issues of public concern and seeks to get residents involved by voting or petitioning public officials to consider such issues. A typical issue of the Observer primarily contains articles and commentary pieces. Slager contends that about fifty-percent of the editorial content is commentary or opinion, often in the nature of a "call for action." According to Slager, the Observer "publishes articles and commentary that are: (1) in connection with issues under consideration or review by the board of selectman or other town government, courts, or other governmental proceedings, (2) reasonably likely to encourage such consideration or review, (3) reasonably likely to enlist public participation in an effort to effect such consideration or review, or (4) are otherwise within the constitutional protection of the right to petition the government.

http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/docs/2009 … cision.pdf

Bobo's lawyer's Blogger site, and referencing of his/Bobo's case
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edit--I'll throw a couple of older stories up here, to fill up the "edit void"

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COULDNT AGREE MORE THE BOS ARE VERY CORRUPT AND NEEDED TO BE RECALLED

Onsetdud,
Do you want me to list some of the comments made about me on Slager's site? Trust me, it isn't any better over there....:)

ONSETDUDE MORE EVIDENCE NEXT WEEK? HE HASNT SHOWN ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL SO FAR. NONE! AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE WHO LOOKED AT A SUPPOSED LEDGER FOR A FEW HOURS AND THIS (NON PROFESSIONAL ACCT) CLAIMS TO HAVE FIGURED OUT A 10 YEARS SCHEME INVOLVING 123 PEOPLE LOOKING AT A LEDGER FOR A FEW HOURS. YOU HAVE SLAGERS SIDE WANTING TO HAVE THE BOS DO AN INVESTIGATION ON THE LIBRARY, BUT YOU HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE BOS (BRENDA) WORKING ON MJ'S OLD COMPUTER? DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS ANYONE? THE "INVESTIGATION" IS ALREADY TAINTED BY HER INVOLVEMENT.

Tonight's farce will be a disgusting display to be sure.  The selectmen would be smart to let their patsy take the fall on this one.   Either that, or they should put up or shut up and direct Mr. Sanguinett to call the Internal Revenue Service first thing tommorrow morning and get the ball rolling on an investigation.  They won't do that though.  A false report charge is a bitch.

Here's how ludicrous Bobo's little fantasy is.  Does he know anything about tax rates at all?  He says (lies) that a kick-back of 25-50 percent was split between Mrs Pillsbury, the Friends, and the trustees.  I repeat, does idiot know anything at all about tax rates?  Because at rates that high, it would actually be cheaper to just pay your taxes. 

That's what is hilarious yet sad at the same time  about this.  I think he must have gotten tax advice from Ace Financial Planner Brucey before he thought of this fantasy.  It sounds like a fantasy made up by someone who hasn't earned a paycheck or paid any taxes in years and knows nothing about taxes or finance.  Oh wait, that also describes Bobo.

Bobo, Mrs. Bobo is the one who is the breadwinner in your house, right?  She pays all the bills?  You probably should have asked her for advice before you cooked up this little fantasy.  25-50 percent.  Jesus Christ.  You're such a goddamn idiot.  At best, you'd save extremely little with those rates, and at most, it'd be cheaper to pay your taxes.  No one would take a risk for savings that insignificant.

Let's look one step further.  Not only would someone NOT take the risk to get little or no savings.  Who would take that kind of a risk for a 25 percent cut split three ways?

Seriously, you mental moron, earn an honest check for once in your life and pay a bill or two and you'd know how goddamn stupid you sound you mental case.

And, the funny thing is, I notice he must have realized how stupid he was.  That was the point of the fake trustee interview that came out a few days later.  Someone must have told him how incredibly stupid his little fantasy was so he tried to back track on it by adding to his list of stupidity that Mrs Pillsbury was a, are you sitting down for this?  That she was a loan shark!  She was forcing people to engage in her low return scheme says Bobo!  Yes, Mrs. Pillsbury, the 65 year old lady librarian legbreaker!  (Note sarcasm)

Bobo, the least you could have done was try to make these believeable.  Seriously, why didn't you just try to pin the JFK assasination on Mrs. Pillsbury while you were at it?

You are a dumbass of epic proportions.

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For Immediate Release
August 3, 2009

New York Rabbi Pleads Guilty to Scheme to Defraud IRS
Four Other Defendants Scheduled to Enter Guilty Pleas This Afternoon

LOS ANGELES—The Grand Rabbi of Spinka, a religious group within Orthodox Judaism, pleaded guilty this morning to a criminal conspiracy charge, admitting that he worked with others to obstruct the Internal Revenue Service by soliciting charitable donations with secret promises to refund donors the vast majority of the money they “donated.”

Grand Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 61, of Brooklyn, New York, pleaded guilty to the felony charge before United States District Judge John F. Walter. The conspiracy had two objects: to obstruct the IRS and to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business.

Weisz, several associates and five charitable organizations associated with Spinka were indicted by a federal grand jury in late 2007 in a scheme in which Weisz and his assistant solicited millions of dollars of contributions to the Spinka organizations by promising to secretly refund up to 95 percent of the contributions. In this manner, the contributors could claim as tax deductions the full amounts of their contributions, while actually having contributed as little as 5 percent of the amount they would declare on their federal income tax returns.

Weisz’s assistant, Gabbai Moshe E. Zigelman, 62, also of Brooklyn, pleaded guilty in June 2008 to conspiring with Weisz and has been sentenced to two years in federal prison.

According to court documents, Weisz and Zigelman surreptitiously refunded up to 95 percent of the contributions through several methods. In some cases, the contributors received cash payments through an underground money transfer network involving various parties, some of whom operated businesses in and around the Los Angeles jewelry district. Yaacov Zeivald, 44, of Valley Village, California; Yosef Nachum Naiman, 57, of Los Angeles; Alan Jay Friedman, 45, of Los Angeles; and Moshe Arie Lazar, 62, of Los Angeles, have entered into plea agreements in which they admit their roles in the illegal money transfer network. These four defendants are scheduled to plead guilty this afternoon.

Three individuals who made “donations” to Spinka entities have pleaded guilty to tax evasion after having taken tax deductions for “donations” that were secretly refunded. Prosecutors have said they are investigating more than 100 individuals who were contributors to Spinka organizations. In sentencing one donor earlier this year, Judge Walter rejected a bid for probation and imposed a six-month prison sentencing, saying the crime reflected “arrogance” and that other contributors who do not come forward to authorities could face “significantly higher” sentences.....

Well that clears it up for me .  At least we know where they came up with this latest and greatest nonsense to justify the $100,000 computer audit .  Thanks lilly what a coincidence you found that just to reinforce the fact that it may be plausable.

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Holy God damn shit. Sorry not rich is right:

Three individuals who made “donations” to Spinka entities have pleaded guilty to tax evasion after having taken tax deductions for “donations” that were secretly refunded. Prosecutors have said they are investigating more than 100 individuals who were contributors to Spinka organizations. In sentencing one donor earlier this year, Judge Walter rejected a bid for probation and imposed a six-month prison sentencing, saying the crime reflected “arrogance” and that other contributors who do not come forward to authorities could face “significantly higher” sentences.....

Thanks Ms Lilly.  You did whip out that article damn quickly.  123 in Bobo's article?  100 in this article?  Could Bobo have gotten the idea from this article?

And what, you're kidding me, the people that found out that the Rabbi in this article was guilty did a crazy thing like reporting him to the IRS?  You've got to be kidding me.  They didn't find a bagel biting bastard barracuda boy reporter  to talk about it with for two years, then do a story and then be satisfied that the evildoers were given a stern lecture in the rag and not go to the IRS?

This baffles me.  I thought according to Bobo when you hear about major tax crimes you do not go to the IRS.  Wow that just makes no sense.

(sarcasm meter on overload).

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Molly, Mrs. P apparently had us all fooled.  That cane she always walked around with?  A clever rouse.  When people were not looking, she would drop the cane and use her karate skills to deliver round house kicks to outlaw nerds who missed a payment on their stolen Herman Melvilles.

"You're two weeks late on that payment of that stolen Moby Dick!  Hi-ya!  Round house kick!  Swayze style!"

I think it was Molly who said BoBo is upset the library people did not lose the case.  Twice the Man with crystal balls and a shrinking ego wouldn't / couldn't accept the truth so he made up a story to make him feel as if he is above the fine and upstanding citizens of Wareham.

kinsailman wrote:

Now we all know MsLilly is not a supporter of this site in general and likes to side with Mr. Slager.

I believe by posting here I am a supporter of this site by default.  There are many supporters who "side with Mr. Slager" who refuse to even read this site, never mind post...I believe they are technically the "non-supporters". 

kinsailman wrote:

Either MsLilly posted it to support the charges at the suggestion of Mr. Slager...

I did not post the Rabbi's story at anyone's suggestion.  I came across that article while I was on the FBI website making my request for an investigation into the recently posted allegations. I believe that is what we have all been encouraged to do?  I can't understand anyone not wanting this investigated...

MsLilly wrote:

I can't understand anyone not wanting this investigated...

Who ever suggested, in any way, that they don't want an investigation?

See, that's a "Slagerism"..Nobody suggested that. The exact reverse has been suggested repeatedly..But by your phrasing as you did..it suggests people have.

And, yes..you post here, and you're generally opposed (ok, fine) and are willing to believe Slager far beyong the point that many of us are (or some would argue any sane person would)..I welcome opposing views, but recognizing patterns is a valuable "self-defense mechanism" we have...and patterns abound with Bobo..and by default you, by your continued defense(s) of him. Why no mention of the many holes in his story? Are they not glaring enough for you? They are blinding to me.

I applaud your attempt to contact the FBI..How'd that go??

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Pretty interesting.  I make a post showing how Bobo's fantasy about taxes would never have happened because the savings would be so low to non-existent that no one would find it to be worth it.  Ms Lilly, within 5 minutes of that post, whipped up this article about the Rabbi.  Then Bobo incorporates this article in the story.

The Rabbi's story makes sense - evil doers might find a 5 percent kickback worth it, but 25-50 percent kickbacks as Bobo makes up - rates that high, you might as well just pay your damn taxes. 

Bobo, of course, realized that and then came out two days later with the interview of Paula Shooter, imaginary trustee, with a new claim that the elderly Mrs. Pillsbury was a  librarian loan shark - "forcing" people to borrow from her.  As if she was some kind of legbreaker or something.

No word yet on the nuclear warheads that Mrs. Pillsbury purchased from corrupt ex-Soviet generals and KGB agents and stored in the library basement.

But compare the Rabbi story with Bobo's story.  Bobo raised the kickback rates (but too high because the unemployed have no understanding of tax rates) and had to cover his tracks with a made up interview, and 100 people for the Rabbi, 123 people in Bobo's story.

The bagel biting bastard read this story, changed the Rabbi's name with Pillsbury, added 23 to the 100, raised the kickback rate too high, had to cover his tracks with a Paula Shooter interview with the new ridiculous lie that Mrs. Pillsbury was a loan shark.

Did they find the space aliens from Pluto that she smuggled out of Area 51 and hid in the library attic yet?

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I repeat - Bobo claims over the course of two years he held in his hot little hand numerous times info that could have incriminated Mrs P, the woman he hates with every inch of his body because like 5 years ago she might have given his beloved Sweet Brucey a cross look....and he never turned it over to the police?

Oh right, he doesn't trust the Wareham police.  Who does he trust?  The DA?  Oh right, they're in on it too.  The AG? The State police?  The Feds?  The FBI?  The President?

Bobo having information like that in his sweaty little palms and not turning it over to someone...bull...fucking....shit.

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IndependentVoice wrote:

Slager claims in today's piece that the IRS and the AG have been contacted about the allegations.  That is a statement subject to interpretation but assuming it is true, is there a way to validate that a report was filed, a complaint was filed...whatever it is that is filed when you report such allegations to the IRS?  Is a public record required when it involves a municipality?

Good question..I've no answer..

But, I'd like to have heard the alleged "contact"
"Hello, it was Colonel Mustard, with a rope in the Billiard room....oh, with a ledger"
"Ok, thanks, we'll take it under advisement"

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If slager is reporting the IRS and AG have been contacted then that is an update less than 30 min old as it was not there at 2:15

kinsailman wrote:

If slager is reporting the IRS and AG have been contacted then that is an update less than 30 min old as it was not there at 2:15

No that was in there earlier today when I first saw the post.

iv It is not something I will start an argument about as I did not copy the artical at 2:15 but I did not see it then and I read it more than once. i am sorry if I am wrong. That does not happen often. but when it does I will say sorry. lets move on.

Bobo's hoax has now reached the level of the DOR,the AG, the FBI, the  AD, the IRS....have  we left anyone out? Shouldn't Homeland Security be included? And what about  FEMA? ....NASA...NOAA... and the Red Cross  ! Heck ! This whole thing is so effing Goofy we  should notify Disney World! 

We have lost our way in The Book of Life.

Remember that TV cop who used to keep saying, "Just the facts, Ma;am...Just the facts..."

Hmm   Fact?  .......  There must be one around here somewhere.....

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Dick Wheeler wrote:

Remember that TV cop who used to keep saying, "Just the facts, Ma;am...Just the facts..."

It's a shame this man has been allowed to poison Wareham with his allegations and unsupported opinions. People, please ignore him and stop buying his fantasy tabloid. The sooner he is gone, the quicker this town can heal from his ignorance and lies.