Good plan.  "One Day At A Time."

Like Molly, I decided to totally stop reading the Rag, or visiting his site on July 4th..frankly, I haven't missed it!!..I will admit I looked at the bottom of the front page on July 30th, just so I could compare what was there against the e-mail that our Moderator had sent..lo and behold, they were one in the same!..forget a week free of the Rag, make it forever free of that alleged newspaper..same for the Moderator, vote him out and expose him for what he really is..this Town will be better off on both counts..

Maturevoter wrote:

Additonally, don't post anything that he can use as "news". Where do you think he gets his ideas? If he didn't have this site, he'd be unable to write any articles whatsoever. This site is his greatest resource.

That will be tough to not report news here.  I think this is a great idea, but he will write about us avoiding him this week.  It's almost unavoidable. 

I suggest if there is news to be covered, just don't mention the Observer or Slager.  You can say "it was reported" but you don't have to say where or by whom.  Especially if its "news" that needs to be discredited.

commonsense: You've got a point ,and I hope we can "bat it around" a bit today. My image of what will happen is ....yes, he will talk about our not talking about him....but that by Day 3 he's going to look like a boxer alone in the ring, flailing away at an opponent who isn't there...and in an arena now empty.

Help me as I "wrassle" with your suggestion: When you use the word "news" with respect to Slager, what legitimate news have we ever picked up from him that wasn't available elsewhere? I'm thinking that not reporting his phony "news" is exactly what will push him over the edge.....and, boy!...is he close to the edge right now.

Dick, I meant if he writes any lies we need to debunk, we really shouldn't ignore that. We should get the truth out rather quickly. However, we can do it without saying: Bobo said... Or in the rag today...

Generic terms will work. It was reported that x happened, but that's not true. Y actually happened.

Something like that

Commonsense: The more I think about it the strongerI feel that dealing with Slager is a waste of time and energy.

Casualobserver's deconstuctions were  the product of a very good mind and were as if text book examples of the art. , but they led nowhere.  We all had fun reading them, but Slager just came up with new layers of lies and got a lot more  people to read his garbage.

Steve's over riding concern is  one that I share with him and with Bob Brady: in seven weeks we are all going to be sitting in a Town Meeting that could put Wareham back in The Stone Age if we don't focus all of our combined energies on getting ready for it.
Make no mistake about it: Slager's role  for the BOS is to distract us from what we should really be doing: raising awareness about the warrant articles, planning neighborhood gatherings, encourgaging the "apathetic majority" to get involved in the democratic process.

All you have to do is scroll through Bill W's site  to illustrate my concern: We are letting a person that some would say should be institutionalized control our agenda.

He's really no different from the wackos who claim that Obama  is not an American: nothing you or I or anyone else could say would make those people change their minds, and engaging with them just lengthens their exposure time. Barney Frank got it right: we might as well be talking to the dining room table as try to  get Bobo to change his ways.

Don't forget that The Wareham Observer with the "the" gives this site publicity. You are fortunate enough to have an easy to find URL.  If Robert Slager doesn't sometimes wish he purchased it when he had a chance he's really in denial.

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

This is a great opportunity to discuss issues concerning Wareham with other residents!

A discussion with Wareham residents...so did Bobo recuse himself since he's publishing from a Halifax toilet?

Monday morning folks---the week begins--we can do it.  A rag-free week. One day at a time.

OK, you guys do this.  Call me in a week when he's still here.  Ignoring him for two years didn't work, kicking his metaphorical butt on this site for a year has worked.  But if we need to try ignoring him for another week for people to realize that you need to fight and not run away if you want to get anywhere in this battle, then so be it.

Last edited by Hamatron5000 (2009-09-07 09:22:22)

Since this is a blank-free week, totally off topic, did anybody see and catch the name of this mega-yacht which went through the canal yesterday? I'm curious whose it was.

Click image to enlarge.





As for Town Meeting, it is obviously very important so why not somebody who knows more about it than I do open a thread to keep all the  relevant posts together.

Everybody have a great Labor Day.

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Last edited by urneighbor (2009-09-07 11:51:46)

UR...yacht looks like Bill Gate's..it was anchored in the Gulf off of Longboat Key a couple of years ago. He travels by helicopter that you can see in the stern...Just a guess...We have also seen Trump's yacht, but this one looks about the same size as Gates'.

I just want to remind everyone here what I put on the thread about the Wall Street Journal article about George Coleman. This website is an important source for responsible journalists trying to tease out the different sides, opinions, and points of view in the various Wareham controversies. Jennifer Levitz from WSJ read the relevant postings on THIS blog.

That is one reason we shouldn't slack off on reporting about Robert Slager even if it feeds his need for attention.

danoconnell wrote:

UR...yacht looks like Bill Gate's..it was anchored in the Gulf off of Longboat Key a couple of years ago. He travels by helicopter that you can see in the stern...Just a guess...We have also seen Trump's yacht, but this one looks about the same size as Gates'.

Not Gates'. His has a dark blue hull. Great pics, but I wish you could read a name. I've looked up a few ship names of some big ones that I've seen go through. It's pretty cool. You can sometimes track where they've been, where they're going, add'l pics, etc..

Maybe, it's Saddam Hussein’s Yacht

PShooter

Last edited by PShooter (2009-09-08 18:43:19)

I apologize as I was a bit rude in my above comment, but to say in a nicer way - I think that an end to criticism for a man with an ego the size of Cleveland is what he wants more than anything in the world.  Going back to the days when the BOS and Bobo bullshit went entirely unchallenged is what they want more than anything.  We need to be Winston Churchill, because trying to be Neville Chamberlain for 2 years didn't work.

That being said, I'll abide by the consensus of the group.

Besides, as future Selectman Steve Holmes points out, we do need to start tackling town meeting.  Between them trying to ram a lackey police chief down our throats, trying to ram a mayoralty down our throats so they can get the pay day they've been waiting for, and trying to trying to ram a project that has already been rejected and has a number of legal problems surrounding it...this will probably be the most challenging meeting we've ever seen, the need to get there and fight for your rights, including your right to stand up and be heard at town meeting is at stake.  Don't let them take that right away!

If they get their way, we'll never have another town meeting again, and the dictatorship will be sealed.   Don't let that happen!

Last edited by Hamatron5000 (2009-09-08 21:03:23)

All due respect to Steve (you know I love you man). I intend to talk/write about Bobo whenever I feel like it. I think it can't be our only or main focus. He's an infuriating ass (Bobo, not Steve), and that's hard to ignore. I am clearly NOT obsessed with him. In fact, my only interest is to stay the course and facilitate his demise (professionally speaking). Yes Bobo, I'm saying it here, hear me loud and clear, I HOPE YOUR BUSINESS FAILS! I won't resort to anything illegal, but the day this town is rid of you there will be cause for celebration. It's happening already, isn't it Bobo?

FACILITATE BOBO'S DEMISE

I AM HAMATRON4999

PShooter

Last edited by PShooter (2009-09-08 22:00:19)

I would like to thank you all for the calls, emails, and notes of support. Ater much discussion and many meetings over the past several weeks and months, it is clear that many residents of this great town have had enough, and would like to see the town returned to them. Where government is open to their opinions and suggestions.

My request as it called, again was to get our focus on the upcoming Town Meeting, not to limit discussion or free speech.

Our rallying call over the next several weeks as I see it, is to initially promote attendance at Town Meeting.

Once the articles are published and we see them in writing for what they are, we then advertise and educate the public, so that when they get to towm meeting they are prepared to do their work and vote up or down on the major issues.

We will not all agree on every issue, but at least we will have done the hard work to present the pros and cons of each issue and then we let the people decide, because that is the government we are trying to bring back to Wareham.

Without your efforts these articles will just be put up on the wall, not have much debate and folks will vote, not fully understanding the issues. I say not this time there are many of us right now doing the research to be able to present to your groups the pros and cons of each article to be presented.

A few side notes: Don't forget to call if you need a ride to Town Meeting or is you are willing to give someone a ride. (508)-536-5612

I have contacted Damien's Pantry and have their OK to move forward witht he Fr Damien Collection Drive on Oct 9th and 10th in honor of his Cannonization to Sainthood by the Vatican. We are thinking one group at Shaws and the other at Stop and Shop. Food Collectors will be needed. Also pickup trucks or trailers to haul the collected food. Any and all help is appreciated please call (508)536-5612

I have witnessed many artistic tallents on this site, anyone that would like to volunteer to make about 6 potsers for the event would be extremely helpful. Again please call to volunteer for this worthy cause. (585)536-5612

On a personal note and you will get plenty of these from me over the next seven months, someone in the office asked me about the screwball who keeps moving his car. I explained to my coworker that than man fought and served for this country in our military, he then came home and fought for our public safety as a police officer, and now his service is to provide us with some great conversation and the best breakfast in town. Then I told him that Steve was my friend, a friend to this town, and a friend that never says no to anyone in need.

Where is the leadership in town?  Steve has done many things for them in his restarant, and yet when attacked by one of theirs the silence is very cold. I will say this, if I was on the Board of Selectman the second that was brought to my attention I would have immeditely called the two news organizations in town the Wareham bureau of the Standard Times and the Warehan Courrier and denounced Mr Coleman's remarks.

But apparently they cannot , because he has been include in the Town's liability slip, and how would that look if they denounce him 2 days before he goes before the judge. A tangled web has been weaved......and for those that have known me from the start I asked two simple questions: 1 - How much does the town contribute to Crimewatch which I still think is a worthwhile organization, and the answer was NO Money, NONE, NO And question #2 was Is the town liable for any injury to a volunteer or to a citizen, and the answer was they have ther own, they sign waivers....Jesus....When apparently the week before they agreed to include all the Crimewatch folks under ther town liablity umbrella.

Again thanks, and please consider volunteering for the food drive. Also if you would like to host a coffee hour in your home with some friends and neighbors to discuss the issues, we will be nore than happy to come and discuss them.

Steve

PShooter wrote:

danoconnell wrote:

UR...yacht looks like Bill Gate's..it was anchored in the Gulf off of Longboat Key a couple of years ago. He travels by helicopter that you can see in the stern...Just a guess...We have also seen Trump's yacht, but this one looks about the same size as Gates'.

Not Gates'. His has a dark blue hull. Great pics, but I wish you could read a name. I've looked up a few ship names of some big ones that I've seen go through. It's pretty cool. You can sometimes track where they've been, where they're going, add'l pics, etc..

Maybe, it's Saddam Hussein’s Yacht

PShooter

Couldn't you call canal control through the Dept. of Eng.'s.  They know every large boat that goes thru the canal.

You know how much I respect you, UR.
I am just doing "my" thing at Steve's request.
I know that Steve has told other people that he is not going to be upset if they write about that certain person.
Me? I'll wait a week.
Unless Steve writes me and says it would not violate his request.

Hey, it's already Wednesday. One day at a time.

Strictly speaking I wrote about his shooter (not ours)...

I found that column so revealing.

I can't stand liars. I also can't stand macho braggarts. He sounds like the kind of (hopefully recovering) alcoholic thug who has replaced his macho flexing and fighting with written macho posturing.

I still wouldn't put it past someone with his admitted history and the way he expresses himself in writing ending up pulling a George Coleman on someone who pisses him off.

Last edited by urneighbor (2009-09-09 11:40:26)

Steve, you are right, and the BOS' treatment of Steve B, someone who has gone out of his way to help them, shows one thing that I've said time and again - no matter how much help you provide to this BOS,  if you challenge them on something, they'll throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. 

I think you're going to be the candidate that will be able to cross the divide and win trust and support from people from both sides in town, and that kind of candidate is going to win big at the polls.  (And is also the kind of candidate that is going to have the BOS running scared!)

I hear you'll get what your eluding to Dan the first part of next week!

I'm done. I can't read that unmentioned site anymore until next week.
I CAN'T TAKE IT!!!
Common...get ready...we should be going on a BIG ride!!
Steve: I know you appreciate this.

I know how we jones over each other.  You know and I know none of us made it no darn week.  Don't even try to lie.

Lord knows I tried.

I won't lie and say I didn't look at the site and read the posts.
In fact, I am now part of them.
Badge of honor to me.

I for one would like to commend you all, I gave you a challenge and you took up the task and did an outstanding job!!!!

From the posting of Westfield deeds, other facts to the Civl Service changes, to the charter group, and the list goes on,

That was the point of my request to present documented facts for people to learn more about the issues.

You all get an A for effort and quality work.

The other upside was to see if the Observer group would take the hint and join us: let's see how that worked out:

He accused State Rep. with using her power to influence the audit. Baits Mark Gifford to speak to him or his silence is guilt. Knowing full well Mr Gifford cannot respond due to the ITA's gag order placed on Dept heads.

Then he moves on to making an ass of himself trying to discredit our State Rep and urging his thousands of readers to email her. She received 3,  2 negative and one supportive.

He tears apart the DA an claims to have all the inside truth about the audit, don't obstruct by holding evidence turn over what you have.

Then there's my jeer please do leave it up, it has been great for the campaign. The least you could have done was make the part about the Brady meeting and the cash for favor true. My campaign thanks you for the free advertisement.

Then he refutes Bob Brady's letter in the courrier, is that because he wanted to get it out to people that actually buys newspapers and not day old blog talk.

And he ends the week with another letter from PShooter just another masterpiece of journalism, let Paul do more of the articles

So he got no news from us.

Great job let's stay focussed on town meeting, neighborhood meetings and let us not forget our food drive.

Thanks and have a great week.

Steve

Last edited by searay240 (2009-09-15 08:47:32)