#2 2009-12-18 14:10:45
Good for George...however...his endorsement of Chief Stanley as permanent Chief contradicts his statement of the many fine officers that could be Chief and the need to call for a Civil Service exam.
How does one appoint a Chief of Police already under Civil Service, ready and able to retire, with the same person at another Town?
Double dipping?
Retire from one Town and go to another?
Call for the exam, give everyone eligible within the ranks of the Wareham Police Department the opportunity to take the test, get the results, break down three finalists, and choose a Chief!
DUH!
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#3 2009-12-18 14:16:54
Thanks for the link, Gnomey. Good letter/post.
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#4 2009-12-18 14:47:24
danoconnell wrote:
Good for George...however...his endorsement of Chief Stanley as permanent Chief contradicts his statement of the many fine officers that could be Chief and the need to call for a Civil Service exam.
If you read the final paragraph, he was endorsing him as "full time provisional" not permanent appointment. I took that to mean if he's interim, they'd rather have him at full-time hours.
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#5 2009-12-18 17:05:04
The BOS need to call for the test and appoint a full time, honest to Pete, gee wizz, real gosh darn Police Chief...you know...NOW!!
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#6 2009-12-18 21:32:18
Hey Dan get a life, I worked there for 31 years and I tell you thAT NO ONE WAS TRAINED
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#7 2009-12-18 21:41:18
part of the job of a good police chief is to properly train an individual to be able to do the job when he leaves. To allow what took place between the police department and the BOS was just plain wrong. Good officers suffered through the ordeal. Civil Service may not be the answer, but a combination of that and the Assessment Center could help. The must be UNITY OF COMMAND and a strong chain of command that the cry babies who run to thje town hall are ignored.
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#8 2009-12-19 08:10:25
Glad to hear from capt c...I love the idea of the Assessment Committee after the test is given and the candidates are interviewed.
At least give the men and women on the WPD the chance to participate. I am sure, since you have been off the job for four years, there may be some qualified candidates out there.
If not, the chips fall where they may, but it is time for a permanent full time Chief in the Town of Wareham.
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#9 2009-12-19 15:38:46
Dan, Listen to Capt. C. He was here long after you left. Decades in fact. No offence meant but it is true.
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#10 2009-12-20 00:23:52
PinkPanther wrote:
Dan, Listen to Capt. C. He was here long after you left. Decades in fact. No offence meant but it is true.
Why didn't they let the Lt. take over for 6 months to a year and see what he could do? The amount of $ spent on the "P. T. Chief" is ridiculous. They let us go with an ITA for what, four years? They just don't like Lt.Wallace, but give him a chance until a date for the Chief's civil service exam is presented, taken and chosen. The officers know the Lt. and at least they would have known who they were dealing with and given them time to prepare for either the Lt. or someone else as a full time P.C. The BOS had no intentions of keeping this position civil service, which was meant to give the BOS even more power. This has nothing to to with the PT Chief as a person, it is my personal feeling that what is seen by the citizens of Wareham, is only what the BOS want us to see. This is not a personal attack on the P.T. Chief. It is just pointing out how the BOS leave the voters out of the loop. We had no idea that we were getting a chief, part time, from East Overshoe, 80 miles away.
The were warned by the D.A.'s office about executive sessions (illegal) and then they had another one this week. They don't care. Taking a phrase from a sentence used by Capt. C., that there must be Unity of Command, etc., "so that the cry babies that run to town hall are ignored." I guess this could be how we get in to speak to the selectmen or TA, be a cry baby and run to the town hall and you will be acknowledged.
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#11 2009-12-20 00:39:11
George Dionne, Union President wrote:
According to MA General Law Ch. 31 S. 12 the Town is to call for a Civil Service exam for the position of Police Chief as soon as a provisional Chief is appointed. Chief Stanley was appointed toward the end of the summer.
The Union didn’t take any action at the time, and decided to wait until Town Meeting. On October 29, 2009 our attorney sent a letter to John Sanguinet asking him to confirm that the Town has called for the test. Mr. Sanguinet failed to respond (as usual).
On December 1, 2009 our attorney sent a letter to The Executive Office for Administration & Finance (Office of Personnel Administrator) in Boston. He has asked them if the Town Of Wareham has met their obligations under MA Ch. 31 S.12 and S.13, since the Town had ignored his previous request. He also request that if the Town is not compliant, that the Executive Office for Administration & Finance take whatever steps are necessary to assure compliance. We will keep you posted.
PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
TITLE IV. CIVIL SERVICE, RETIREMENTS AND PENSIONS
CHAPTER 31. CIVIL SERVICE
Chapter 31: Section 12. Provisional appointments
Section 12. An appointing authority may make a provisional appointment to a position in the official service with the authorization of the administrator or, if the appointing authority is a department, board, commission, institution or other agency within an executive office, with the authorization of the secretary of such office. Such authorization may be given only if no suitable eligible list exists from which certification of names may be made for such appointment or if the list contains the names of less than three persons who are eligible for and willing to accept employment and the appointing authority submits a written statement to the administrator that each person whose name was certified and who reported for an interview was interviewed and considered for appointment and states sound and sufficient reasons, satisfactory to the administrator, for not making an appointment from among such persons. A provisional appointment may be authorized pending the establishment of an eligible list. Such authorization shall be void unless exercised within two weeks after it is granted.
After authorization of a provisional appointment pursuant to the preceding paragraph, the administrator shall proceed to conduct an examination as he determines necessary and to establish an eligible list. Such examination shall be held and such eligible list shall be established within one year from the date of such authorization if the appointment must comply with federal standards for a merit system of personnel administration as a condition for receipt of federal funds by the commonwealth or any of its political subdivisions. If, as the result of such examination, no suitable eligible list is established, the administrator, upon the request of the appointing authority, may authorize an extension of the provisional appointment pending the results of another examination. Upon authorization of such an extension, the administrator shall arrange to hold a new examination forthwith and to determine the results of such examination. The eligible list resulting from such new examination shall be established within eighteen months of the determination of the results of the last previous examination, provided, however, that such new examination shall be held no later than one year from the date the last examination was held if the appointment must comply with federal standards for a merit system of personnel administration as a condition for receipt of federal funds by the commonwealth or any of its political subdivisions.
If no eligible list is established after a second examination for the same position, the administrator and the appointing authority shall confer and decide what action should be taken, such as the holding of another examination on a different basis.
PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
TITLE IV. CIVIL SERVICE, RETIREMENTS AND PENSIONS
CHAPTER 31. CIVIL SERVICE
Chapter 31: Section 13. Provisional appointments; notice; filing
Section 13. An appointing authority, in requesting authorization to make a provisional appointment, shall file with the administrator or, if the appointing authority is a department, board, commission, institution or other agency within a executive office, with the secretary in charge of such office, a notice containing: (1) the information which the appointing authority believes is necessary to prepare and conduct an examination for the position for which such authorization is being requested, including a statement of the duties of the position, and the knowledge, skills and abilities necessary to perform such duties; (2) a proposal specifying the type of examination which should be held by the administrator; (3) a substantiation that the person proposed for the provisional appointment meets the proposed requirements for appointment to the position and possesses the knowledge, skills and abilities necessary to perform such duties.
Call for the test Mr. Andrews.
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TAKEBACKWAREHAM
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