#1 2009-10-01 15:33:03

Good afternoon, fellow denizens of the dark side.

Well, that is the abundantly clear thrust of all that I have seen since Tuesday night. Those of us who blog on this site are (in the immortal words of George Thurogood & the Delaware Destroyers): "BAAAAD to the BONE"

Is that right?

You see, what is happening is right out of the Karl Rove playbook, using Nixon's Donald Segrettii & Gordon Liddy. To wit: use words & phrases that produce images of reaching for the moral high ground, of taking the high road, of being above the nastiness of the rabble, to being superior to the crude unwashed. Uh, that would be us.

A reader of the article in the Courier (oh, don't get me started on them - I hope those that took me to task after my Courier polemic following Mr. Brady's meeting have reconsidered, and see my points about them), now where was I before I so rudely interupted myself - oh yes, the reader. The casual reader may be swept up by the positive vibes from this love-in, the love fest on Marion Road. But (there it is, following me again), one needs to ask some basic, fundamental questions.

1 Quo Vadis, Brucie? In my encounter with Sweet Brucie in the men's room at WHS during a Town Meeting, he prattled on about heart surgery in Mexico, which my memory says was a valve replacement. So. Prior to Tuesday's meeting, did SB undergo a personality transplant? Or, at least anger management therapy? An attitude adjustment? A valve job & tune-up? What?

A prudent observer would demand far more in the way of love-is-the-answer speech than the obligatory few minutes on Tuesday.

2. Cry me a (Wareham) River Brenda: You have got to be kidding! This nattering nabob of negativism (the recently deceased William Safire, writing for Spiro Agnew), this hard-ass, has suddenly got a soft underbelly? Is she channeling Nixon and his Checkers speech?

Its a show, folks, Surprised they didn't hand out programs and acknowledge all of the actors, er speakers.

Now, here's what it really is. Its Tom Brady spinning out from center, sticking his right hand in the belly of the running back while he hides the ball in his left hand. The object is to have the defense flow to the running back, while TB looks for the open receiver.

In other words, it is an effort to get this group to focus on the feint, and take our eyes off the prize. DON'T DO IT! DON'T FALL FOR THE FAKE!

All of the high falutin' words in the universe cannot mask what this BoS, and their lackey - Pravda by the Pottie, run by the Harlot of Halifax - have done. Focus, focus, focus. On, the task at hand at both Town meetings (catch that "s"), and in the Town elections.

Their ploy is cute, but cute don't get you everywhere.

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#2 2009-10-01 15:51:04

just need to make a point here..


facts..
there was a es meeting before the 7pm meeting cronan left and NEVER came back..
heaton left looking down at his shoes never even responded to citizens saying hello to him.. as the public was finally allowed into the room brendas face was very red and her body language was that of an upset person..

the papers and watching the show doesnt give all the preshow details..

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#3 2009-10-01 18:11:36

I wonder why it was in exec. session. What is so secret about Mr. Heaton and Westfield? It's not in litigation, it's not a personnel matter, it's not collective bargaining. He has been dealt with publicly before.

I'm trying to figure out which category of ES a meeting with a paid consultant for Westfield would fit under. I don't have a list of the categories, but what's the secret?

I thought TRANSPARENCY was so important to these people. Once again, I'm stumped. Does anyone know the ES categories? Which do you think if fits under?

Cronan rarely misses meetings. I wonder if he had a commitment or if he was angry. I wonder what's going on?

Notalawyer--nattering nabob of negativism??? What a hoot. Thanks for the insight and the alliteration.

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#4 2009-10-01 18:44:46

Spiro did have a way with words...with milk contracts, too!

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#5 2009-10-01 20:05:47

Molly wrote:

I wonder why it was in exec. session. What is so secret about Mr. Heaton and Westfield? It's not in litigation, it's not a personnel matter, it's not collective bargaining. He has been dealt with publicly before.

I'm trying to figure out which category of ES a meeting with a paid consultant for Westfield would fit under. I don't have a list of the categories, but what's the secret?

I thought TRANSPARENCY was so important to these people. Once again, I'm stumped. Does anyone know the ES categories? Which do you think if fits under?

Cronan rarely misses meetings. I wonder if he had a commitment or if he was angry. I wonder what's going on?

Notalawyer--nattering nabob of negativism??? What a hoot. Thanks for the insight and the alliteration.

molly...mgl Chapter 39: Section 23B

(1) To discuss the reputation, character, physical condition or mental health rather than the professional competence of an individual, provided that the individual involved in such executive session has been notified in writing by the governmental body, at least forty-eight hours prior to the proposed executive session. Notification may be waived upon agreement of the parties. A governmental body shall hold an open meeting if the individual involved requests that the meeting be open. If an executive session is held, such individual shall have the following rights:

  (a) to be present at such executive session during discussions or considerations which involve that individual.

  (b) to have counsel or a representative of his own choosing present and attending for the purpose of advising said individual and not for the purpose of active participation in said executive session.

  (c) to speak in his own behalf.

  (2) To consider the discipline or dismissal of, or to hear complaints or charges brought against, a public officer, employee, staff member, or individual, provided that the individual involved in such executive session pursuant to this clause has been notified in writing by the governmental body at least forty-eight hours prior to the proposed executive session. Notification may be waived upon agreement of the parties. A governmental body shall hold an open meeting if the individual involved requests that the meeting be open. If an executive session is held, such individual shall have the following rights:

  (a) to be present at such executive session during discussions or considerations which involve that individual.

  (b) to have counsel or a representative of his own choosing present and attending for the purpose of advising said individual and not for the purpose of active participation.

  (c) to speak in his own behalf.

  (3) To discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the governmental body, to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with nonunion personnel, to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with nonunion personnel.

  (4) To discuss the deployment of security personnel or devices.

  (5) To investigate charges of criminal misconduct or to discuss the filing of criminal complaints.

  (6) To consider the purchase, exchange, lease or value of real property, if such discussions may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the governmental body and a person, firm or corporation.

  (7) To comply with the provisions of any general or special law or federal grant-in-aid requirements.

  (8) To consider and interview applicants for employment by a preliminary screening committee or a subcommittee appointed by a governmental body if an open meeting will have a detrimental effect in obtaining qualified applicants; provided, however, that this clause shall not apply to any meeting, including meetings of a preliminary screening committee or a subcommittee appointed by a governmental body, to consider and interview applicants who have passed a prior preliminary screening.

  (9) To meet or confer with a mediator, as defined in section twenty-three C of chapter two hundred and thirty-three, with respect to any litigation or decision on any public business within its jurisdiction involving another party, group or body, provided that: (a) any decision to participate in mediation shall be made in open meeting session and the parties, issues involved and purpose of the mediation shall be disclosed; and (b) no action shall be taken by any governmental body with respect to those issues which are the subject of the mediation without deliberation and approval for such action at an open meeting after such notice as may be required in this section.

[ Clause (10) of the fourth paragraph added by 2008, 445, Sec. 4 effective March 30, 2009.]

  (10) To discuss trade secrets or confidential, competitively-sensitive or other proprietary information provided in the course of activities conducted by a governmental body as an energy supplier under a license granted by the department of public utilities pursuant to section 1F of chapter 164, in the course of activities conducted as a municipal aggregator under section 134 of said chapter 164 or in the course of activities conducted by a cooperative consisting of governmental entities organized pursuant to section 136 of said chapter 164, when such governmental body, municipal aggregator or cooperative determines that such disclosure will adversely affect its ability to conduct business in relation to other entities making, selling or distributing electric power and energy.

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#6 2009-10-01 20:54:36

Ok. So which one pertains to seeing Mr. Heaton in exec. session?Number 6? But how could it be detrimental when Westfield was already legally "taken" and the deed restricted.

Can anyone else see something I am missing?

Thanks Liz. I knew it was somewhere but didn't have the time today to do the search.  I think you'd make a great town clerk.

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#7 2009-10-01 21:03:06

Here's another illustration of why the BOS are running scared: There is an abundance of knowledge  on this site about the rules that are being twisted or just plain violated every day by  the folks who need to be replaced.   Thank you, Lisa!

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#8 2009-10-01 21:18:36

Just want to repost this here. I think it echos what Dick Wheeler said.

For years they have counted on apathy as a way to accomplish their agendas. This site (Thank you Bill) has been a launching point for a grassroots effort to bring citizens back to Town Meeting and the voting booth. That is the very same reason they are paying so much attention to this site. They see the tide turning and people listening. More and more citizens are coming out of the shadows to get involved. Citizens with good intentions are shining a bright light on the hypocrisy that plagues the town. What baffles me is how the Selectmen and their almost defunct mouthpiece cry to the masses, "THIS IS UNFAIR". They are public figures and speak about open government, fiscal responsibility, and respect for the citizens. Unfortunately, they do not practice what they preach. There are many examples of Selectmen being rude to citizens. Astronomical legal bills are evidence of poor fiscal management. Tears do not change the fact that a meeting of the CRC is public and it is permissable to be taped (audio and visual). To complain about that is simply unacceptable! 

Why would they want to condemn the very same people answering their call from the pulpit? They didn't mean it! They thought we weren't listening. Good news Selectmen, we were listening! Not only were we listening, we responded. Now you have our attention and it bothers you? You can label people "hate bloggers" , "power elite", or anything else you think is catchy, but the reality is we are citizens of Wareham that DEMAND you follow through on your promises of OPEN GOVERNMENT, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, and RESPECT FOR THE CITIZENS. If that makes you uncomfortable, then perhaps you aren't cut out for the job and should step aside.

In the meantime, we will continue to video tape, ask questions, make our opinions heard, and hold you accountable for your actions. That is what responsible citizens do!

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#9 2009-10-01 22:21:15

Larry: You have "nailed it."
It's posts like yours and  the one's labeled "Molly". "Commonsense", "urneighbor" ,  "mixie", "casual neighbor", "dano", "maturevoter" and others, that have them soiling their whatevers. 

Don't get distracted, Bill W fans.....Stay in contact with this MWF movement   until it is exposed for what it is.....

There will be no forward progess until someone from the the other side says, "We've screwed up. Let's work together for a better Wareham."

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#10 2009-10-01 23:02:18

First, thank you Mr. Wheeler. It is 100 percent how I feel!

The rest of this, I probably shouldn't post, but I am worn out over this whole thing.

I told Bob Brady when we first met, I am not good at politics and I try to stay as far away from politics as I can. I got involved because I was told by an elected official, "I don't care what you have say". I have tried my damndest to avoid the political trap and just do what I think is right. Unfortunately, that just doesn't happen in this town. If you attempt to assist a person with their concerns, you have to suffer the wrath of our local political spinmeister, Robert Slager. I've been told on several occasions not to engage Robert Slager, it's like arguing with a rock. Of course,, I'm southern and stubborn, and I have a hard time letting a person lie and twist the truth, especially when it is about me or someone I love.

I do not claim to know all the answers. I do know that I will continue to assist citizens who have concerns. I will continue to state my opinions and search for the truth. I will not back down from people who do not have the best interest of Wareham and my fellow citizens as their goal. If that makes anyone uncomfortable, I'm sorry. That is just who I am. I will attempt to do it in a more appropriate manner though :)

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#11 2009-10-02 08:29:47

Thanks for working with you wife to help her become the new Town Clerk.
Wareham needs to borrow her for a few years.

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#12 2009-10-02 08:38:11

I will support her anyway I can. SHe is in it for the right reasons, and that makes it worth it!

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#13 2009-10-02 08:50:24

Larry McDonald wrote:

I've been told on several occasions not to engage Robert Slager, it's like arguing with a rock.

It's like arguing with a toilet, but at least with a toilet, if you pull the flush handle you'll get a more intelligent response than anything you'll ever get from Bobo.

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#14 2009-10-02 09:41:50

If I were to make an educated guess, the BOS will use # 6 as the reason why they discussed Westfield in executive session. If the intention is to allow a developer to lease the property and develop it, then they could say that they were discussing the terms of a lease agreement and could not do it publicly since it would have a detrimental effect on the bidding process.

By the way, my sources tell me that the Fin Com voted 5-3-0 on the warrant article regarding Westfield. The Chairman of the BOS apparently stomped out, very upset. The three who voted in favor were Dan Cheever, Bonnie Cotuli, and Dom (don't know his last name). The remaining voted against.

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#15 2009-10-02 09:48:18

Thanks for your info and insight Mature. THIS type of post is why those of us who look at this site and post here do so. Important information to know. The truth will set you free---from tyranny and bullying and intimidation.

This is my opinion only---this bos abuse the executive session privilege. Transparency is what they claim guides them, but so much takes place behind closed doors. I don't remember former boards of selectmen going into exec. both before and after their meetings. And they didn't go into exec. at every meeting as this bos does. Of course, in the past, there were not so many legal matters to deal with. I don't remember former boards being constantly having to defend their actions--computer audit, employee firings, library legal case, now Westfield. Really, this has to stop.

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