Huh?
Must be the medication. I don't understand.
Explanation for your brother PShooter? Common? Cas? Bill?
Someone help me understand.
Thank you in advance.
I'm looking for a can of Raid.

You the MAN, PShooter!!
So...you're confused also?

MsLilly?????

Can it be the Dizzy Miss Lilly that I wrote about so long ago?

Three things come to mind in re: "biotch"

1. the writer was a biology teacher in another life. for the sake of students everywhere, one hopes that the past tense is correct.

2. what used to be called pharmaceutical companies are now lumped under the category of "biotech" firms. perhaps the writer consumes so many of their psychotropic products (e.g. Prozac, Haldol, Valium, thorazine, etc.) that
"biotch" is an apt nom de plume.

3. Or, the writer simply can't spell or type, and has one too many vowels in the word. They are adjoining on the keyboard, after all. Wait! is that Elton John in the background. Probably not. that line about "stone cold sober" doesn't seem to fit.

Wonder if MsLilly has been to the Drunken Clam lately?

Molly wrote:

Who uses the word "biotch"????

How pathetic.

Since it was made, I have respected your request of never talking to you again...if you'd like to retract that request, make reference to me again...

If you want to play, then by all means, let the games begin...
Oh sweetie, let's play ball...

Excellent job Mr. Brady...I'm impressed...

Except the arrogance I am referring to concerns such things as certain groups or individuals dictating who and who can not attend community meetings, or trying to physically control what publications our seniors are going to be allowed to receive or trying to control what papers local merchants can and can not sell...

Keep up with those type of tactics and your organization will self implode...

But really, good job with the analysis...

Whatever, Ms. Lilly. Do you have anything to add other than spreading false accusations. Geez, you guys are repetitious. I know, I know..we hate old people and Cape Verdeans, is that right?

You obviously feel you are more intelligent than, i dunno, everyone on this site. One BIG problem with that. You've sided with Bobo & the Gang. Clearly, that's evidence to the contrary. I'll match up with you any way you want Sweet Pea. I'm your Huckleberry.

PShooter

MsLilly wrote:

Excellent job Mr. Brady...I'm impressed...

or trying to physically control what publications our seniors are going to be allowed to receive or trying to control what papers local merchants can and can not sell...

Keep up with those type of tactics and your organization will self implode...

But really, good job with the analysis...

I think it's a sign of arrogance when the person who is making the accusation doesn't have all the facts. That is the case here. What I find the most telling is that if the tables were turned, SOMEONE and his trusty minions would be screaming bloody murder and calling for an investigation.

I know the truth and the offer to Andrea Smith is still on the table. When a journalist doesn't bother to check out the facts, they are no better than that child that cried wolf. In both cases, it will come back to roost, it always does.

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MsLilly wrote:

Excellent job Mr. Brady...I'm impressed...

Except the arrogance I am referring to concerns such things as certain groups or individuals dictating who and who can not attend community meetings, or trying to physically control what publications our seniors are going to be allowed to receive or trying to control what papers local merchants can and can not sell...

Keep up with those type of tactics and your organization will self implode...

But really, good job with the analysis...

You forget what you wrote so soon?

.."physically control", what the F does that mean...And your quote wasn't above my understanding, it just doesn't apply. Keep being condescending. How's that working for ya?

Round and round you go...
Let me ask you point blank. Do you feel as though we are unconcerned with the welfare of seniors in our community? Did you support Bobo's and the Moderator's race-baiting and assertion that Cape Verdeans were not welcome at Mr. Brady's meeting? Somehow I get the feeling I won't get direct answers to these direct questions.

PShooter

MsLilly wrote:

...if the seniors were to lose their free copies of the Observer, aren't they the one's being punished?   How much damage are you causing for Robert? He is giving free copies of a paper to low income house bound seniors...are they really considered a threat in this battle?  Of course not, but they are the ones that get screwed...it comes down to hurting our seniors for a brief moment of satisfaction...we showed you Robert...you're not going to allow you to give your papers away anymore...

I have commented on the race baiting issue before, but I will repeat it...if it had been my choice, I would have not gone that  route...that is not to say I disagree with the hypothetical, just that it wouldn't have personally been my argument of choice...
If the community meeting's invitation had been open to all, then there wouldn't have been an issue to begin with...

I personally don't feel as though "punishment" is an accurate word to describe the loss of the rag, but that's my opinion. I do think ANY other local paper would be a better source of News. I don't feel he did it as a solely charitable act. In fact, that's a good front for working the senior electorate.

I do appreciate your attempts to address my questions. You (re)state that you where opposed to the race-bating, but then qualify your answer to suggest something HAD to be done. The reality is, that aside from not wanting Bobo, the BOS & Mr. Moderator to attend the meeting, I believe anyone else was welcome. Is this too exclusionary? I don't think so. Have you ever rented a room, and there were people you'd rather not have there? If you don't understand why those individuals have proven they would be counter-productive to the stated purpose of the meeting, then your only seeing what you want to, to support your "beliefs". A few other people in this town have a history of doing this.

Are you a member of the fledgling "Move Wareham Forward"? If so, maybe you'd like to meet with some people from "our" side, and attempt to find common ground. Forgive me if I don't expect this offer to be accepted.

PShooter

since we are recycling quotes:

Power does not corrupt man; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power.
George Bernard Shaw

Moles...moles everywhere!!

iliveinazoo wrote:

Giving the rag to home bound seniors borders on abuse and makes me sick.

You need to visit a few more nursing homes if you think receiving a free newspaper is abuse...

I would like to see if we can reach a compromise and ask that all copies of the rag distributed to seniors in the Meals on Wheels Program have that 10 year old "In this Corner" photo of Bobo where he looks like he's squinting and staring directly into the sun be covered up.

Just pour some white-out on each picture of Bobo before they are handed out.  For Christ's sakes, the seniors are trying to eat and you're giving them a paper with a photo of a guy that will make them want to barf.

I think if Meal on Wheels had been asked and gave their permission to have it delivered with the meals the point would be mute. If I had a senior relative that had signed up for Meals On Wheels and the rag was delivered with the meal I would be upset.

MsLilly wrote:

...only "liked minded" citizens were invited to attend...and again, that was Mr. Brady's right...I would have preferred a more private venue like the Elks or the Redmen Hall to have been selected instead of the public venue of a school and that it had not been advertised as a community meeting...that's the two points I took issue with...

I would differ with you on this point. Just because it's a school, does not make it a public venue. As far as I know, other private functions are held at the school(s). It is not "inherently" public, as Bobo also asserted.

I know you've burned alot of bridges over here, but sometimes you sound like you have the town's well being at heart. I have no idea how/why you would/could defend them so much. If you or them truly want rapport and open dialogue, then take the olive branch offers extended by Steve, Dick and others. They really should stop trying to discredit us, and realize this is the closest thing to a "suggestion box" this town has. I've heard them, (forgive me for repeatedly using them/they, but I think you know who I mean) say, "I wouldn't be caught dead going to the Whitehouse site", and things like that. If there's one thing I hate, it's when someone's dead set against something, then admits they refuse to learn anything about it. They might not like the things said here, but you have to admit, we watch them pretty closely. I think that's why they're so secretive, which is contrary to what their positions require.

PShooter

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Lil, I don't get the "don't even go there"

... and I think suggesting a few people sit down and try to get to know each other is a positive, respectful and noble gesture. I only see one side willing to make the effort. So, it can be assumed the other side is negative, disrespectful and ignoble. I hate to say it, but that sounds about right. Do you think us insincere, or else not worthy of respect? My guess is, yes.

A "true" community meeting is what I sense you're insinuating, again discrediting the coalition that's been formed here. But, hey, whatever. Great, by all means I already said I'm looking forward to any announcements of these promised meetings. Maybe I can interview you. Let me know.

PShooter

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MsLilly wrote:
...only "liked minded" citizens were invited to attend...and again, that was Mr. Brady's right...I would have preferred a more private venue like the Elks or the Redmen Hall to have been selected instead of the public venue of a school and that it had not been advertised as a community meeting...that's the two points I took issue with...

1.. the elks is a public place also.. you can privatedly rent the hall but... the bar is still open for its members even if you rent the hall.. redman rules i dont know. as far as the school if bob brady just had his meeting there then i would say it was PUBLIC but... he paid $ to the school dept for electricity and custodial fees that too me makes it rented like an apartment he has the right to do what he wants in that space and time frame he is paying for as long as hes not breaking the law just like in an apartment..

from your own opinion the bos meet in a public place then we all should be able to attend thier es right? that is your course of logic right?

i understand your opinion i was ONLY dealing in facts not opinions thats all.. yes the cops could have been called to another venue also but that is just speculation at this point..

bob brady never said residents werent welcome cape verdean or otherwise..only the bos ita and media..as adults they should have honored his request.. as the renter he had the right..

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

bob brady never said residents werent welcome cape verdean or otherwise..only the bos ita and media

Not to beat a dead horse to death beyond recognition, but I know what sticklers we are for the FACTS here, so before I completely put this issue to rest and out of fairness to everyone.... 


From the Wareham Courier (July 22)

    Former selectman Bob Brady, who has been instrumental in organizing the July 30 event, said the meeting is open to anyone who shares the belief that the time for change in Wareham government is now.
    “The key to the invitation is for only those who are truly unhappy with the leadership in this town and who want to see Wareham move in a new direction, a positive direction,” he said.

From the Standard-Times (July 25)

   The meeting, set for Thursday at 6:30 p.m. in the middle school, is not open to defenders of the status quo, (Brady) said, and as of Friday he said that the media were not invited, either, out of concern for a free expression of ideas without fear of reprisals. One local publication has already challenged the use of a public building for a private meeting, but Brady defended his intent to screen those attending.


Since there were (and still are) many, many citzens that didn't conveniently fit into the very specific criteria set for attendance, I believe there were many many people besides the BOS, ITA and media who were not welcomed at the "community" meeting...

ms lilly: There's a great example of Slagerspeak in your final paragraph.There's no sense in explaining it to you because you know full well the "sleight of hand" gimmick I'm referring to.

Do you do card tricks too? Was your school nick name "Defty"?

Lots of moles!!
We actually had moles in my lawn this summer. My wife read that is you put a piece of chewing gum in the hole, the mole will take it, eat it, and meet his demise.
I don't know why.
But, moles are hard to get rid of. They may hang on for lots of pieces of gum.
Our moles are gone.
Yours are still lurking.
Get the gum!
Get the can of Raid!

It sure would be nice if a knight in shining armor would ride in on a not so dead horse to save a couple of damsels in fact distress...

"the key to the invitation is for ONLY those who are truly unhappy with the leadership in this town..."   
"is NOT OPEN to the defenders of the status quo"


All citizens of the community were or were not invited?

Larry McDonald wrote:

Sigh....what is the use? Show me where it excluded anyone based on gender, race, or religion and we can talk. It's going to be a busy afternoon at work, so you'll have to wait for my reply. Did you get an "attaboy" from your BFF?

Show me where I said anyone was excluded based on gender, race or religion...

For the last time, I had an issue with the entire community not being invited to a community meeting and the claim being made that no one was excluded except...oh forget it...

mslilly a question...
1.. would you just show up to a birthday party for someone you werent friends with didnt agree with and didnt like???

if you answered yes that explains it all..

MsLilly wrote:

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

bob brady never said residents werent welcome cape verdean or otherwise..only the bos ita and media

Not to beat a dead horse to death beyond recognition, but I know what sticklers we are for the FACTS here, so before I completely put this issue to rest and out of fairness to everyone.... 


From the Wareham Courier (July 22)

    Former selectman Bob Brady, who has been instrumental in organizing the July 30 event, said the meeting is open to anyone who shares the belief that the time for change in Wareham government is now.
    “The key to the invitation is for only those who are truly unhappy with the leadership in this town and who want to see Wareham move in a new direction, a positive direction,” he said.

From the Standard-Times (July 25)

   The meeting, set for Thursday at 6:30 p.m. in the middle school, is not open to defenders of the status quo, (Brady) said, and as of Friday he said that the media were not invited, either, out of concern for a free expression of ideas without fear of reprisals. One local publication has already challenged the use of a public building for a private meeting, but Brady defended his intent to screen those attending.


Since there were (and still are) many, many citzens that didn't conveniently fit into the very specific criteria set for attendance, I believe there were many many people besides the BOS, ITA and media who were not welcomed at the "community" meeting...

thanks for seconding what slager just put up today... i would hope in all fairness ne bans you and down the road from his website since both of you have now done what he claims i did with his copyrights...PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF HE BANS YOU OR PLAYS FAVORITES TO YOU AND DOWN THE ROAD AND LIES FOR MY BEING BANNED..

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

MsLilly wrote:

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

bob brady never said residents werent welcome cape verdean or otherwise..only the bos ita and media

Not to beat a dead horse to death beyond recognition, but I know what sticklers we are for the FACTS here, so before I completely put this issue to rest and out of fairness to everyone.... 


From the Wareham Courier (July 22)

    Former selectman Bob Brady, who has been instrumental in organizing the July 30 event, said the meeting is open to anyone who shares the belief that the time for change in Wareham government is now.
    “The key to the invitation is for only those who are truly unhappy with the leadership in this town and who want to see Wareham move in a new direction, a positive direction,” he said.

From the Standard-Times (July 25)

   The meeting, set for Thursday at 6:30 p.m. in the middle school, is not open to defenders of the status quo, (Brady) said, and as of Friday he said that the media were not invited, either, out of concern for a free expression of ideas without fear of reprisals. One local publication has already challenged the use of a public building for a private meeting, but Brady defended his intent to screen those attending.


Since there were (and still are) many, many citzens that didn't conveniently fit into the very specific criteria set for attendance, I believe there were many many people besides the BOS, ITA and media who were not welcomed at the "community" meeting...

thanks for seconding what slager just put up today... i would hope in all fairness ne bans you and down the road from his website since both of you have now done what he claims i did with his copyrights...PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF HE BANS YOU OR PLAYS FAVORITES TO YOU AND DOWN THE ROAD AND LIES FOR MY BEING BANNED..

It would be me banning him since I was the one to post it initially...you have it "back"wards...and as I just said, this continued argument isn't benefiting any of us...and my answer would depend on what flavor birthday cake was being served :-)

MsLilly wrote:

I have a question regarding the civil service article...I have heard plenty of support in favor of keeping it based on its protection over the chief...how about some opinions as to how it would benefit the taxpayers if we voted to keep cs...

The Meeting? Your principles? Your WAY overbloated opinion of yourself? You're in serious danger of reaching idiot status quickly.

The Meeting's old news. It was a necessary, and obvious next step in the "evolution" of our "organization". Give it a rest. You are not more principled than us. Trust me on that.
If you need the link to the audio, let me know. (psst..my favorite part is when Bobo is really shown what the citizens of this town think of him and his rag).

..And by all means, let's talk Civil Service. Do you have any positives to add regarding the removal of Civil Service from Chief of Police selection. Hmmmm. Does anyone?
I've been waiting for anyone to say anything good about it since the issue/article was raised. Why would you expect us to try to raise points of support for this? Do you & the others need help finding good things about dropping CS. Is it a coincidence that we now have an Interim Police Chief, and that's right in line with their agenda?

"Biggest Bully", give me a friggin break. You ain't shit. If you're the best Bobo has to offer, you guys are in truly dire straits. Condescending blowhards like Sweet Brucey, Bobo and yourself are the reason good citizens have decided they have to group together and put a stop to it. I suppose you all deserve alot of the credit for bringing us together. So, thanks for that.

Stay. Go. Who gives a shit. We won't be distracted from attaining our goals, and that has you guys all riled up. It's just starting to get fun. Pack a lunch.

PShooter

PShooter...do you like vodka by any chance?...

If ridicule, name calling and overall personal assault is your normal modus operandi when faced with opposition, okay...whatever makes you feel superior...it's just that I am not used to dealing with that when I have blogged here in the past, so forgive me if it takes a moment to get used to...I know many people who won't come to this site because of the supposed "hatebloggers" but that was never an issue for me...for whatever reason, I was always well respected when here, and I tried to keep that respect mutual...I believe I was successful for the most part, and when I was not, I apologized...I have enjoyed how challenging the other bloggers here have made it for me when it comes to trying to prove a point by the use of their wit, cleverness, humor, and even sarcasm and have felt a sense of accomplishment when I thought I had succeeded...on occasion, I have had my eyes opened regarding certain issues and when it comes to dealing with the really mean stuff, I try and ignore it...

Referring to myself as being "the playground bully" was in reference to Mr. Wheeler's remark of not wanting to play with kids like me on the playground....I do not consider being the "biggest bully" a positive attribute, nor would I ever care to be thought of in that way...perhaps I misinterpreted the insinuation...I certainly hope I did...

I brought up the civil service issue in the hopes of starting a dialog of the pros and cons for both sides of the issue...hearing other's opinions can help with forming a personal one...and I thought perhaps Liz and I could use a diversionary tactic to move us away from our "no win" debate...

I guess that's all I've got for now Mr. Shooter...perhaps if I say something in the future that you disagree with, you could just ignore it...

If I was not friends, did not agree with them and didn't like them, how did I get an invitation to their birthday party?

The obvious answer would be no, of course I wouldn't go...unless curiosity got the best of me...

Okay, your turn...what does this pertain to?

It's a waste of time Zoo. It has been explained to him, just like the meeting has been explained to MsLIlly. It's their sworn duty to continue the discussion and twist and spin (Isn't that like sit and spin?). Just a suggestion, let's just let them crow and toss their tail feathers. It's a distraction so people won't notice they goofed up! You know how it works....wow, we have egg on our face, so let's see if we can change the topic and maybe they won't notice!

It's going to be a great weekend, so let's enjoy it! Ms Lilly, have a great day and hope you find something constructive to do!


Oh, just a shout out to another friend, Thank you for the perspective!

iliveinazoo wrote:

Why does anyone engage in this type of banter?

On another note, can someone please explain to Bobo what is copyrighted material? Forums and other means of internet communications are not coyright material. The material has to be an original "work", not a freaking blog post. Oh my head. I have spent all night researching this, but I think flox or cas would put this so much better than I could. Besides, I have taken a liking to using certain unacceptable words whenever I speak of this evil doer within our community. I wouldn't want to offend the moles.

i did go the routes you suggested and even looked up the copyrights on line.. it is just his excuse to ban me for stepping up toe to toe and challanging his lies..

Zoo,

For all of Bobo's ranting about our side being "secretive," our posts are visible to the public and the whole world to see.  The tin foil hat squad on Bobo's site, on the other hand, are so ashamed of their support for the selectmen that they don't want the public to see what they write because even they know what they write is indefensible.  They just want it seen by like-minded cronies because they know what embarrassment they'd have if everyone was reading their garbage.

That's why Bobo had to start banning "non-believers," if the public actually saw what those wackjobs write over there, they'd realize what nutjobs they are.