Other than the fact I need about 40 copies for the puppy, I think either the Standard Times or the Courier would be interested in helping out the COA and the meals on wheels program. To be honest, the content of both of those paper is far better and diverse than what you get with the kitty box liner paper.

I'll speak with the Courier, the BE and the S-T. I need to know about how many we would be looking for. Anyone up for a conversation with Meals on Wheels?

MV, that all sounded great. Then I thought, if he's "donating" them, and has the BOS's okey dokey, does it all go out the window?

I wonder if suggesting that the BE/ST/Courier, any of them, be delivered with the rag, would be something they'd be more willing to consider. If they want to stop passing out the rag, great. But, I'ld avoid putting anyone in a position where they feel they're forced to be "political". If you had the rag sitting beside any of those NEWSPAPERS, which would you read?

PShooter

Last edited by PShooter (2009-09-23 14:34:32)

ok.. i talked with theresa from old colony elder services and she had NO IDEA that slagers paper was being delivered she said they have a newletter but again she knew nothing about the paper that was being delivered..

When a person who lives in Halifax refers to "WE" when speaking of the citizens of Wareham, then anyone reading that knows this person has an agenda. I'll repeat this again: The publisher of that paper lives in Halifax, he does NOT have an office in Wareham, and he is not a registered voter or citizen. His so called newspaper is nothing more than editorials condemning anyone who disagrees with the Selectmen. OH, and his NEW writer, Paul Shooter, talks of violence and hatred. Is this something you would want your grandmother to read? How about a newspaper that offers more than partisan political attacks and hate filled diatribes? As citizens that CARE about the shut ins, we are attempting to provide them with an alternative that is balanced and offers NEWS, not attacks.


The good news is that his paid circulation is equal to his number of supporters...that would be 4 or 5.

Last edited by Larry McDonald (2009-09-23 14:59:18)

ihateliz wrote:

WELL THERE PAPERS SELL AND HIS DOESNT, I THINK THEY MAKE GOOD CAT LINERS, THEY ARE TRYING TO BRAIN WASH THE SENIORS.

They are good to wrap fish in, too.

Larry McDonald wrote:

And it starts:

From: Warehamobserver@aol.com [mailto:Warehamobserver@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:12 PM
To: Larry McDonald
Subject: (no subject)

   Mr. McDonald, you are an absolutely despicable human being. You would actually deny a group of house-bound senior citizens the opportunity to receive a free newspaper each week for purely political reasons? God have mercy on your soul. You and your wife have grown so warped that you have lost all perspective now. I will deliver those papers myself if necessary. Both of you sicken me. Shame on you.


The only thing I will say at this point is I consider the source and the twisted lies told by this person. It would be funny.....you know the rest.

Not purely for political reasons.  We love our seniors and we don't want to see them being upset about what they read in the observer.  By having other, reliable reportings from other newspapers they'll be able to see thru the observer for what it is.  They are old, not stupid!

And where is the "I will swear to you on the life my daughters" from last weeks Courier and now "God have mercy on your soul", coming from?

Bobo is a Douche Bag..I'm glad we got under his skin. Just wait Bobo, we're not going to stop till you are G-O-N-E.

You misrepresent, in your Jeer, just like you always do. Every move you make, (and I think I've said this before) confirms a little more, that you are assuredly one of the biggest Assholes we've had the displeasure to come across in this town. Let them have your shitty rag. Put a real paper beside it, and we'll see which one gets used for kitty piss.

You & your gang of misfit's days of brainwashing and manipulating the elderly are coming to an end. Charitable? What's so charitible about giving away papers that don't sell, and you don't even pay the printer. Your self righteous stance is more ridiculous with everything you write. Buh-bye shit head.

PShooter

Huh? I thought he was going to ignore the bloggers here. Didn't someone say he wrote a whole article about it? Oh right. How many times has he contradicted himself? It was to be expected, of course.

If I cared, I'd tell him to get a life. Since I stopped reading the rag on July 4, independence day from the rag, I and many others only get info about it from this site. And most of us could care less.

He must keep this site open on his computer so he won't miss any postings. Sounds like a sad, pathetic life to me. Now that he realizes the bos has lead him down the path of lies and libel, he has nowhere else to go for information except to the ST and Courier which he rips off on a regular basis--of course, this is just my opinion based on the repetition of phrases, words etc. that I  noticed before I went cold turkey.

I agree about not giving the rag to seniors unless it is balanced with the facts--that can only come from the real newspapers in town. To subject seniors, many who are susceptible to fear tactics (consider how many seniors are scammed--the highest percentage of the population) to the rag is what is immoral. Senior abuse is a real thing and I have no tolerance for it.

Truth to the people--including the elderly.

P.S. That would exclude the rag.

Let's just let him have his say. We all know he has zero credibility and that may be too high. He actually lied in that jeer, but I heard Bruce's voice in his words. If i can see that, so can others. :)

Larry, I just posted this in a thread I started, but wanted to include the relevant parts here as well:

New Lows "Jeer" wrote:

The "Take Back Wareham" crowd has done a lot of sleazy things over the past few months, but this one takes the cake. They are trying to stop the Meals on Wheels program from dropping off free copies of the Observer to home-bound seniors. That’s right - FREE copies.

Well this is simply not true.  Before we go into why it's not true, does anybody know when he published his "I'm done responding to them in print" fallacy?  Was it 3 days?  4?  I forget.  Anyways, at the time I last read that thread, there were 15 comments.  ONE of those 15 had any substantial discussion about stopping the delivery, and it was basically ignored.  The remainder were either mocking the Observer, talking about how to get other papers to provide free papers, or making general statements around "is this allowable?".  What Slager wrote is a blatant, BLATANT misrepresentation of what was discussed here, and he should be ashamed of himself.  Even if you believe what he wrote, it's based on the premise that having a biased publication that spews hate week after week as the only available source of information for seniors is a good thing.  That's just ridiculous.  Mr. Brady showed us in his letter to the editor that Slager's editorial policy is damaging to the town, and I would argue that it's damaging to our seniors as well.  What Slager's saying is about as valid as someone saying "Can you imagine the nerve of these people, removing cigarette vending machines from our elementary schools?  We were giving the cigarettes away for free because we felt like it was the decent thing to do, and these twisted bloggers want to deny the kids a chance to smoke FREE cigarettes".  It would all be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The other ridiculous thing on here is when he says "We have an idea. Let the Courier and the Standard-Times give free papers to these folks as well."  Hate to burst your bubble Rob-O, but Larry posted that in the very first post in the thread on this topic.  He said, and I quote "...what are the chances we can speak with the Courier and/or Standard Times and try to secure the same deal?"  No reason for you to include the truth in your jeers, though, I guess.

What someone should do is gather all the violent articles, the lies, and twisted truths and sit down with the Old Colony Elderly people and SHOW them what Wareham is delivering to THEIR CLIENTS!
Perhaps bring a laptop with some DVD clips too.
In my mind it is elder abuse, you take a vulnerable shut in, fill their world with lies then pick them up and take them to Town Meeting without ever presenting them with an alternate viewpoint. That is brainwashing. Then to use them to do your bidding, now that is pretty sick. God help the souls of this BOS, they have some explaining to do I am sure.
Personally, if someone was treating my grandparent or parent in this manner I would be on the phone to any agency I could.
And, when you jeer me Bobo please remember my name is spelled "I L I V E I N A Z O O".

Hello everyone,  I just needed to put my two cents in.  This is the same action he pulls with large groups obviously.  He targeted the Cape Verdean Community a few weeks ago and he is targeting the senior citizens or a regular basis,  "Senior Baiting" I guess you could call it.  Somehow he feels this is an OK practice, this horrible man has no investments in this town, he does not pay taxes to this town, he does not operate a ligitimate business in this town, he does not need municipal services, he has no children in our schools, and to top it off he does not even live here!  THERE'S NOTHING BUT A GOSSIP COLUMN WARPING OUR COMMUNITY!   
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I looked into alot of the claims made here and I can't stress this enough to anyone who is reading this site, the accuracy of this site is quite good.  Every blog site is going to have some hateful comments but its very easy to read past that. 
Lastly, I listened to the selectmens meeting last week and they were complaining that the town had no lifeguards?  The standard times reported that the towns legal fees are over 365K this year, isn't that 120K over the new increased amount they requested at our last town meeting?  There are your lifeguards! Why isn't our town administrator doing anything about this, I fear for the towns future if these selectmen and town administrator stay in power.  I would think its appropriate to call for a citizens vote of no confidence on the town administrator, he is doing his job in the best intrest of the boards intentions and not the taxpayer!   STOP WAISTING OUR MONEY!

Mr. Holmes you have my familys support if you choose to run for selectman, best of luck to you!

Thank you for your time everyone.

This is to Andrea Smith. Can you get her the message, Bobo?

I don't read your stuff very much. I've had an open mind toward your being associated with the rag (your first mistake). Before you blast us with a stance remarkably similar to Bobo's, you really should get your facts straight.

You're livid? Join the club.

NOBODY ATTEMPTED TO STOP THE CRAPPY RAG FROM BEING DELIVERED, TO PUSH ITS SLANTED VIEWS ON A VULNERABLE SEGMENT OF THE VOTING PUBLIC. WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A REAL PAPER, IN ADDITION TO, THE RAG.

As far as I'm concerned, your credibility just took a MAJOR shot. Are you even a resident of Wareham?

If anyone thinks I'm bashing her too hard, read her article before judging me too harshly.

PShooter

THE RAG DOES NOT SELL HE TAKES HIS LEFTOVERS  AND SENDS THEM OUT ON MEELS ON WHEELS , WE JUST WANT TO GET A GOOD PAPER ,WITH TRUTHFUL INFO IN IT AND NOT BRAINWASH THE SENIOR CITZENS , IF THE RAG WAS NOT FILLED WITH LIES THEN WE WOULD NOT CARE AND TO ANDRE YOU WANTED TO STOP THE SHOPPING CENTER, GET A LIFE.

Shame on any paper that doesn't offer to give their papers away to the elderly when asked.
They should be happy to do it, it is good publicity, and it allows them to compete with reading time against the other paper that is being delivered free.
I can't conceive of them saying no.

Mr. Gaines, Ms. Smith and Mr. Slager you should all be ashamed of yourselves, all of your actions prove to be actions of senior baiting!   We all want our seniors to take part in our community but when your shoving your opinions down their throats and passing it off as factual, well that is just wrong.  Mr. Gaines if your delivering meals on wheels then do your job,  when that task is done then you may be a paper delivery person.   
One of the threads here listed a new regulation discussing people that have second jobs and conflicts?  Does this apply? Is meals on wheels a town program?  IF so is he delivering papers during a town overseen program?  Maybe someone can better answer this.  Also, just for the record, I am not against the meals on wheels program, maybe Take Back Wareham organizer could get some funds together to help get the seniors books, papers, etc?  Maybe Borders would donate to the cause?

thank you

I just got home from the CRC and I want to thank all those who posted support. It was truly disheartening to see the twist that was put on a this entire process. What started out as a response a couple of concerned seniors turned into another episode of Bobo lying and wanting to make himself out to be a martyr. I sincerely hope the each of you that interact with the senior citizens spread the truth.

The night beofre this appeared in his gossip rag, he sent an advanced copy with HIS name on it. The next day it appears with Andrea's name on it. It wasn't word for word, but it was the same work. You can conclude from this that either he realizes he is Mr. Zero credibility, or he felt it was more effective coming from Andrea. In either case, it wasn't about the seniors, it was about a political move. Shame on him and I hope Andrea Smith has the courage to contact me and learn the truth. I will leave that window of opportunity open for a short time. Bobo preaches open and meaningful dialogue (just like his shadow group MWF) but he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Enough said about it.

I have a copy of that letter Born and Zoo. That was part of what spurred the entire episode. This is what I want to stop. It is shameless to use a government program to spread a partisan political message. What makes that flyer more dubious is that it contained lies. This is what we need to STOP. I won't deny that The Wareham Enquirer is 80% political BS, but the flyer was 100% BS! 

This is taking advantage of our senior shut-ins!  I wonder if Bobo would be crowing if this flyer came from the opposition? of course he would! I will post the flyer shortly.

The mere fact that someone allowed this to happen (Old Colony didn't know about it) smacked of political favortism and borders on extortion! Who authorizes what is in those packages?

Molly, I wanted to add your post from the other thread here, so I am : )

Molly wrote:

People seem to forget that this is not the first time ragboy has used the seniors in a massive scare tactic. Before the October 08 meeting, Larry Gaines handed out a flier he had composed (and later claimed someone changed what he wrote, but still he handed it out personally--filled with many typos by the way) that said if the town meeting voting to restore some money to the library, the COA budget would be cut. Because he handed it out to the meals on wheels people, the elderly panicked thinking their meals on wheels would be cut. Then ragboy ran a series of articles stating the same thing---that library people hated the elderly and wanted to deprive them etc. One article featured a married couple from coa who accused library supporters of hating the elderly etc. It was very nasty and all lies.

Sanguinet stood up at town meeting and denied that the town had anything to do with the letter sent to the elderly and that meals on wheels was funded by Old Colony and not included in coa budgets. A citizen then made a motion to amend the budget to return some money to the library budget AND return some money to the COA budget. But the anti-library t-shirt wearing people, including many COA people, voted down that amendment.

Ragboy has preyed on the elderly before. It is sad and pathetic. To frighten people like that is despicable. And that IS my opinion.

By the way, I speak from fact. I have the flier and I was at that town meeting.  One of my elderly friends was one of the ones who panicked. I will never forget the incident.

PShooter

Thanks for the post Pshooter! :)  I feel much better now that all of this is coming out!