It's no wonder everyone makes fun of Bobo.  He sets himself up to be ridiculed.  The BOS set up 2 new policies that would prevent the appearance of a conflict of interest.  The second policy was already in place.  Nothing new there.  How does BoBo twist the facts?  Instead of just talking about the new policies, he ties it into the audit, saying that the BOS is not waiting for the DA they are moving forward with the audit by implementing the new policies.  How does that have any thing to do with the audit???? Sounds like he is trying to lead the reading public into thinking the BOS really is doing something with the audit.

I think they also used the maintenance workers as an example. Someone who works for the maintenance dept not being able to take side jobs on their own time doing gardening work. That seems a bit much. In this economy there are a lot of people who are taking second jobs. Primary jobs are hard to find, finding a second job that fits into your schedule is even harder to find.  It bothers me that a town employee has to tell the TA they have a second job and that the TA has to approve all second jobs. I don’t understand this intrusion into a town employee’s private life. I understand that there may be some conflict of interest issues with certain jobs. I think this is a slippery slope; we may not want to go down.

I expect they'll use it to target "unwanted" individuals.

PShooter

Some of these people cant get a primary job how do you expect them to understand the reality that maybe people need to feed their kids on more than a municipal salary

are they afraid that one of the municipal maintenence workers will bribe a subcontractor and have felonious dirt brought to their house.

who would do such a corrupt thing http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index … te?blog=53

Last edited by sorry not rich (2009-09-17 19:30:20)

In all fairness.....There are five...count 'em five.... people on the BOS.  We ....I'm including myself....tend to use a broad brush when we are talking about them . This is especially  true when we are talking about their professional lives. There's a  tendency to use the term "losers."  Without getting into the appropriateness of that term for three of them ,we should bear in mind that Jane Donahue has a very responsible  civilian job with the U S Navy in Newport, RI ,and Walter Cruz was a Construction Manager in charge of up to 200 workers in large construction projects up and down the length of the East Coast.  Now that he is "retired" he is as busy as ever  on the local and national scenes as a dog breeder and trainer and as a judge at field trials  across the land.

I point this out because we should avoid statements that could leave us with egg on our faces.

With all respect to Dick Wheeler's comment, unless the vote was 3-2 on this stupid policy, then it is certainly ok to paint them all with the same broad brush. They are all idiots!

ihateliz wrote:

jane is as bad as the rest of the selectman ,she does her dirty work behind the scenes, cruz he votes there way all the time and doesnt say much,other than that he is not a problem ,but jane is and she has to go

I have to agree. I want to give (at least Mr. Cruz), the benefit of the doubt. But, he hasn't shown me very much.

PShooter

ihateliz wrote:

THE SELECTMAN HAVE A NEW POLICY TO FIRE TOWN WORKERS WHO MOON LITE ON OTHER JOBS , I THINK THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE LAWSUITS AND THE POLICY TO HIRE THE FORMER MAYOR OF BROCTON TO ROOT OUT CORRUPITION IN WAREHAM WORKERS IS JUST CRAP , A SPECIAL COUNCIL IN WAREHAM TO INVESTIGATE CORRUPITION IN WAREHAM WORKERS WILL COST A LOT MORE IN LEGAL FEES AND HOW MUCH CAN OUR  EMBATTLED TOWN WORKERS TAKE, HOW MUCH OUR WE PAYING THIS FOMER BROCTON MAYOR AND IS HE A FREIND OF BROCTON BRENDA?      WAREHAM WILL BE BANKRUPT BY THE NEXT ELECTION.

Someone needs to be hired to root out the corruption in the Selectmen's office.  We don't need any more special councils, especially one to investigate corruption in regard to persons working for Wareham.  This one may come back and bite them in the ass.

I wonder. The P.T. police chief, is he a moonlighter? If a town employee says the town job is his moonlighting job does he need permission to work his primary job?

If you'll re-read my post you'll note that I was referring to our  making remarks such as,"None of them could get a real job."....Because that isn't true across the board. What I noted were facts independent of their performance which we often forget, thus setting ourselves up  for a counter attack when one of us says  something like, "Can't those  BOS clowns get anything right?" That's all I meant.

The town makes workers take furloughs , pay cuts, raise freezes, ot cut back and they tell you, you can't take a second job on your own time. I smell lawsuits

Bruce has executed a very careful plan creating chaos in Wareham:

1.   Do some outrageous things like the Audit, using CPC funds, firing employees without cause, taking land by eminent domain with obvious self interest, discourage volunteers who don't play his game, eliminate Depatments and Commissions, on & on...all with no public input or mediation or telling the truth.

2.   Wait for the public outcry.

3.   Prompt Slager to lie defend his actions.

4.   Wait to get sued

5.   Initiate lawsuit or witch hunts

6.    Hire the battery of lawyers from K&P with no limit on costs

7.    Ignore public outcry

8.    More Slager twisting of the truth and other distractions

9.    Now, hire a politically connected Brockton lawyer to squelch due process

10.   Sit back with satisfaction at the chaos he has created - at the expense of         the public - expecting to qualify higher office - Mayor of Wareham or State Rep?

              God help us if Bruce Sauvageau's dreams come true!


               He has been Wareham's Greatest Nightmare!

I'm not sure that the policy absolutely forbids moonlighting or second jobs. We all need to read the policy as it is worded before we make claims that aren't valid. From the discussion at the bos meeting, I thought it related to getting jobs because of some connection to your own job. There should be no conflict of interest, no pressuring people to hire certain companies because they do a lot of work for the town. I don't think the bos were very clear in their explanation especially if it has caused a lot of confusion.

If you work for municipal maintenance as a janitor, how would it be a problem if your side job was gardening/landscaping and your clients had nothing to do with the town? If you work for the town and are a member of the national guard, how would that be some sort of conflict of interest? I don't think this is what the policy is all about--or at least it shouldn't be.

Let's get our facts straight here. Does anyone have a copy of the policy? Let's see what it says exactly. If I am wrong about this, I apologize. But I'm pretty sure they are not trying to keep part time town employees from working other jobs to support their families.

Molly wrote:

I'm not sure that the policy absolutely forbids moonlighting or second jobs. We all need to read the policy as it is worded before we make claims that aren't valid. From the discussion at the bos meeting, I thought it related to getting jobs because of some connection to your own job. There should be no conflict of interest, no pressuring people to hire certain companies because they do a lot of work for the town. I don't think the bos were very clear in their explanation especially if it has caused a lot of confusion.



If you work for municipal maintenance as a janitor, how would it be a problem if your side job was gardening/landscaping and your clients had nothing to do with the town? If you work for the town and are a member of the national guard, how would that be some sort of conflict of interest? I don't think this is what the policy is all about--or at least it shouldn't be.


Quote from bornofwareham:
I think part of this may be from someone who handed out business cards to people whose homes had been burglarized, and his side business is installing alarms.  Funny thing, though, knowing this person as I do, I'm sure he would love to have the business but he would expect the homowner to call around for prices.  Just my opinion, but this may be what the BOS are basing this on.
Unquote by bornof wareham



Let's get our facts straight here. Does anyone have a copy of the policy? Let's see what it says exactly. If I am wrong about this, I apologize. But I'm pretty sure they are not trying to keep part time town employees from working other jobs to support their families.

Last edited by bornofwareham (2009-09-18 14:40:58)

well why is bruce so hateful against the town ??
is it screw you?
iv`e got 7 months left .
kind of like a lame duck president.
is he running for reelection .
he should know by know , it`s over.
his attitude towards everything ,is my way or the highway.
or in his mind I am the great Brucie "do you know who I am "
Most people up for reelection change there views.
to get reelected.
this man is on a head on collision , with a train.
it  makes no  sense.
kinda like this post haha

LIZdaGNOME wrote:

3..what about police who are also national guard or reserves where does that leave them under this new policy??

Protected by state and federal laws.

sorry...trying to drag as a new topic.  Help?