#1 2009-08-12 10:59:25
Rip Dinkle here! LizdaGnome reported this in another thread, but here is what Slager said on his website this morning:
By: robertslager on 8/12/09
COA director Marcia Griswold just informed me that somebody came into the Senior Center shortly after I dropped off 100 free papers intended for local seniors and the Meals on Wheelers program and stole them all. Shortly after the hatebloggers started complaining that the Observer gives free papers to local seniors. These people are sick. How they can claim they aren't trying to censor the news is beyond me.
Of course, we are the first people he blames. Great job of reporting numbnuts! I called the Bagelmeister on my Playskool phone, but he didn't answer. I am now going to assume what he would have said :) Damn those power elite bastards, they ripped off the 100 papers I had just delivered to to Marcia. People need to know about the recall crew and their political agenda! Why, why, why? (He does a great nancy kerrigan)
Back to the story. This shouldn't and couldn't be the work of the power elite. They have more class than that. I would check with Paul Shooter and see if he had anything to do with it.
I've checked with the all the bad boys of the recall crew and they were working, doing power elite stuff and no where near the COA when this happened. There was a mysterious baseball bat propped up against the building...hmmmmmm
Rip Dinkle....over and out
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#2 2009-08-12 11:48:56
Breaking News PARODY!!! Bobo was arrested today for being ugly in a no ugly zone. He immediately blamed the power elite and the WPD for violating his 1st amendment right to free speech. AN inside source claims he was talking to his sock puppet and rambling about suing anyone who doesn't agree with him.
In a related story, Ms. Lilly claims that since the police were PHYSICAL with the Bagelmeister, people can and should boycott the police and the makers of handcuffs.
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#3 2009-08-12 12:15:58
I dropped by the Multi Service Center Monday afternoon. I saw a whole stack of the rag on the bench by the door where the bus drops people off. I would assume the rag was dropped off either Thurs or Friday of the previous week. Since the rag was there on Monday I don't know what Bobo means by "shortly after ".
Maybe a whole bus load of people got of the bus and grabbed a copy. On no, that can't be true, because there are less and less people going to the center because Marcia is such a witch.
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#4 2009-08-12 12:18:05
Marny,
This is what I mean, we need the facts. Too many times he has added his spin to achieve a desired results.
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#5 2009-08-12 12:37:32
Maybe 100 Rag supports picked them up to enjoy?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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#6 2009-08-12 12:39:10
Okay, now I can stop laughing...Thanks Commonsense....that made me bust out.
I really want answers. Too often, what he says goes unchecked.
Maybe someone at a pet store picked up the papers to line bird cages?
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#7 2009-08-12 12:54:11
Maybe some of the diabled who use that bench to wait for the bus, because they can't stand, tossed them into the garbage.
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#8 2009-08-12 13:41:17
I learned in other campaigns and town controversies where there are heated opinions on both side that sometime people go over the line taking matters into their own hands. Usually it's in the form a late night raids stealing campaign signs.
If this really happened and someone who objects to Robert Slager's paper did this I counsel them to refrain from such tactics.
Promoting an effective boycott is the way to go. Convey your thanks to stores that don't sell the paper, explain to those that still sell the paper how biased the it is. If you want to tell them you're seriously considering to take your business elsewhere. I don't think nasty threats work very well. Take the high road and be reasonable.
The strongest action is contacting his advertisers and telling them (in a nice way) that you'd prefer they advertised elsewhere. I'd go easy on direct threats to boycott a business because of their ads in Robert Slager's paper but if they get enough people complaining the owners will get the idea.
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#9 2009-08-12 13:45:17
Rip Dinkle...LIVE on the scene!
This reporter just learned that the OVM has decided to carry The Warehamwhineserver again. Apparently it's cheaper the the wrapping paper they use for the meats and fish. I can just use all the left over copies (which are plentiful) to wrap the meat up. It's also handy for wiping up counter spills!
In other news: Where the heck is HAM????
You heard it first here....Rip Dinkle...over and out.
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#10 2009-08-12 13:57:35
I wouldn't put it past the Bobo squad to set-up the stolen papers on their own.
The Donahues have been known to play the stolen campaign sign game in the past.
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#11 2009-08-12 13:59:15
urneighbor wrote:
I learned in other campaigns and town controversies where there are heated opinions on both side that sometime people go over the line taking matters into their own hands. Usually it's in the form a late night raids stealing campaign signs.
I can attest to the sign stealing during campaigns. A couple years ago some of the signs I had put up got stolen. The police were notified. They know who the culprits are as do many townies, just ask around. The cops set up a sting, but alas, no sign stealing that night.
Despicable behavior and not just because the signs cost good money. If you can't beat your opponent fair and square, you don't belong in the race. Sorry if I drifted a bit on this thread, but I had to comment on the above.
Stealing signs, rags, anything is illegal. Of course, if something is free---are you stealing it? Just wondering.
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#12 2009-08-12 14:08:38
Just a little information about the alledged theft. :)
Apparently, the papers were delivered on Monday and as of this morning, there were still approximately 80 copies left. I'm not sure where "shortly after" comes from, but something is amiss in the alledged theft.
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#13 2009-08-12 14:48:16
By: robertslager on 8/12/09
COA director Marcia Griswold just informed me that somebody came into the Senior Center shortly after I dropped off 100 free papers intended for local seniors and the Meals on Wheelers program and stole them all. Shortly after the hatebloggers started complaining that the Observer gives free papers to local seniors. These people are sick. How they can claim they aren't trying to censor the news is beyond me.
I'm confused. If someone "stole them all" how can there be 80 left? Did ragboy have an extra 80 rags hanging around to replace all the stolen ones?
Have a safe trip Larry. We need your investigative skills.
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#14 2009-08-12 14:50:03
I need a little help with this :)
This is what Slager wrote on his site, in the comment section this morning:
By: robertslager on 8/12/09
COA director Marcia Griswold just informed me that somebody came into the Senior Center shortly after I dropped off 100 free papers intended for local seniors and the Meals on Wheelers program and stole them all. Shortly after the hatebloggers started complaining that the Observer gives free papers to local seniors. These people are sick. How they can claim they aren't trying to censor the news is beyond me.
About 20 minutes ago, I learned that the papers were delivered Monday and as of this morning, there were approximately 80 papers sitting on the bench by the handicap entrance. So, did they steal them in phases? What exactly is "shortly"? This is what I mean by twisted tales. How do you get shortly from 2 days of sitting out there? Geez...what a crock.
Anyone want to put their hands on this pile of poop?
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#15 2009-08-12 15:09:19
While keeping my hands safely away from the pile of poop, I was wondering about the piles of papers that used to show up at the Town Hall? If this is still the case, it would seem that this is a far more dangerous affair, in that the people who go there on business are very likely to form opinions, and perhaps vote. My fellow senior citizens tend to talk a good game, but many fail to follow thru with action.
Why is a political polemicist allowed to give his slanted vitiol away for free in a public building, whether the CoA, Town Hall or wherever. A legitimate newspaper, OK; for example, the Boston Herald used to distribute free copies of its morning edition to afternoon commuters in South Station. A magazine touting the positive features of living on the South coast, OK. Etc.
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#16 2009-08-12 15:11:48
Notalawyer,
I've suggest that the Courier or Standard Times ask to be included with Meals on Wheels. I'm sure they have over prints and can offer them up to the ederly and shut-ins. This would be a fair and equitable way to stem the favoritism shown towards the Wareham Observer.
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#17 2009-08-12 15:45:10
Update!
The papers are sitting on the bench outside the handicap entrance (photo to come later). So, Mr. Slager lied, plain and simple. Thank LizDaGnome, she found the papers sitting there. She is snapping a photo as we speak. More to come later.
As a hate blogger, power elite, recall crew, and all around pain in his ass, I would like to see some sort of retraction or apology. :)
just want to add thee are 86 papers.
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#18 2009-08-12 16:21:40
Larry keep us posted.
A few things from the Rag:
In reference to getting OVM to bring back the Rag. Bobo said of the owner;
"He said so many people have asked him to resume selling the paper that he has changed his mind." (my quotation's not Bobo's)
--Sure, Bobo, I'm sure those were his exact words. Was he on his knees begging you to let him back into your life?
"There are people out there so determined to impose their will on others that they will threaten local business owners to accomplish their goals."
---Sounds like there's been threats of violence. Examples....none, ok.
"The bloggers have openly written of the need to destroy the Observer in order to assist their candidates in next April’s election."
---Show me the quotes.
"The Observer has never lied about anything."
---OK, I'm done.
PShooter(Not Bobo's Buddy)
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#19 2009-08-12 16:25:14
Larry... Marcia Griswold also lied. Bobo doesn't have the balls to use her name without her permission.
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#20 2009-08-12 16:32:59
i tried to speak with marcia griswold her secretary pam said "she was in a meeting."
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#21 2009-08-12 17:05:41
I happened to run into a friend who happens to work in social services in Brockton, she also happens to work with the Meals on Wheels program, I think Marcia may be getting a phone call. From what my friend said distributing the rag to vulnerable elderly citizens may (I stress the word MAY because she stressed the word MAY) pose a problem. We shall see, but at least someone is going to check. Godknows I wouldn't want my parents only news to be Bobo's opinion of the world!
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#22 2009-08-12 17:12:18
Once again, supporting a boycott of a newspaper has nothing to do with the First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
On another matter, Slager seems obsessively focused on perceived threats.
I searched his current free site and there here 10 uses of "threat":
impose their will on others that they will threaten local business owners
Make no mistake about it – it is terrorism to threaten the existence of small local businesses
No business owner in Wareham should have their livlihood threatened because a small group of people disagree with any newspaper's editorial position.
Slager, along with two of the selectmen, attended despite the threat of arrest
Her statements included a thinly-veiled threat of litigation against the Observer...
All the threats in the world will not make these questions go away.
All the threats, smears and boycotts in the world will not change that fact.
If I was him I would have taken that as a threat against my family. (attribute to Paul Shooter)
But when they started threatening his family I started to learn how nasty some of my “friends” really are. (attributed to Paul Shooter)
being a bunch of immature jerks who threaten a guy’s family because he speaks his mind about things. If I was Rob Slager I’d take a baseball bat to their heads... (attributed to Paul Shooter)
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#23 2009-08-12 17:14:56
I bet that Paul Shooter shoots blanks.
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#24 2009-08-12 17:31:10
robert is claiming that a relacement pile of papers were delivered to the senior center.. funny how none of this came out till i went there and checked, asked to talk to marcia and called and left him a message..
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#25 2009-08-12 17:52:37
Here's another example of how Robert Slager thinks, and if you don't think it's a significant clue into his personality consider it's his first sentence:
There are days this job makes me so weary I can barely get out of bed in the morning. I know the day will be filled with endless attacks on my character by anonymous hate bloggers.
I highlight his use of the term threat above and missed the obvious meaning of his lead sentence today. If he literally is feeling so weary he has difficulty getting out of bed in the morning I suggest he talk to his doctor. Hey, I am not out to see him destroy himself as a person. I just want his paper run by a responsible journalist.
To Robert Slager:
As for attacks on your character, Robert, I don;t know you so I don't have much to go on to make any conclusions about something as subjective as character. From what I can tell you seem to be attracted to those in power and are letting certain people with authoritarian personalities influece you so you can get their approval.
There are a two or three people who I can see how you would characterize as anonymous hatebloggers, but everyone else posting here either using their own name or a nickname do not post hate. Sure satire is bitting satire which crosses the line into mockery and sarcasm. That, Robert, is not hate.
I really don't see manifestations of hate here in 95% of the posts. For your own mental and physical health stop focusing of the 5%, ignore the satire and sarcasm, and consider that some of us have well considered criticisms of how you do you job.
I do not consider you to be a good journalist. I have tried to explain the reasons why. Others have spent even more time critiquing your writing. You are in fact getting invaluable advice that could help you if you'd just work on being less defensive.
Until I see signs of that I will support the boycott because I think your paper has become a propaganda vehicle for the selectmen.
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#26 2009-08-12 18:02:47
Let's face it, either Slager or Marcia Griswold is a liar. I've talked to two people who said the papers were delivered Monday and were still there this morning. Now this afternoon, papers were there. Liz counted them and there were 86. She also spoke with Marcia's secretary and the lady had no clue what Liz was talking about. Now, Slager is saying he had another deliver made. How insane is this?
1. Doesn't Slager deliver his papers?
2. He said the papers disappeared shortly after HE delivered them, yet they were still there this morning?
3. He suddenly had more papers?
When it all comes down on his head, he still lies. Is there any wonder he is losing customers?
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#27 2009-08-12 18:03:57
I know how urneighbor is able to make statements like he just posted. He has the expertise and background to make them.
I think of all of the money I made as a consultant advising people in business and government.
I always told a business person: know your business, inside and out, and make sure you are trained in management, because the Peter Principle does speak of the inability to be a manager, but a great salesman, journalist, etc.
Mr. Sleezer has never been a manager.
That is very dangerous when opening a business that you may have intimate knowledge of, but not the ability to manage..to RUN a business.
Great journalist...bad manager.
Nothing to be ashamed of...just fact.
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#28 2009-08-12 20:16:48
Larry, I totally believe slager had an extra 100 papers.... They don't sell anywhere else so he just grabbed them from other locations.
That's sarcasm bobo
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#29 2009-08-12 20:40:45
Well, we know he didn't deliver them. his fingers have been flying all day.Perhaps paul shooter delivered them? Wow....we missed a chance to see the mysterious paul shooter.
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#30 2009-08-13 07:39:38
Lizdagnome... If you are going to talk to Marcia in person and you DARE to question anything she has said or has done, you should know she will probably start yelling at you.
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#31 2009-08-13 07:59:21
Marny,
I can tell you one thing about LizdaGnome, Marcia won't be yelling at her :)
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#32 2009-08-13 08:22:37
Does anyone put it past Bobo to create this issue of missing magazines??..perhaps Paul Shooter can get to the bottom of this??..ignore, ignore, ignore.......
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#33 2009-08-13 08:57:03
I'm a little confused. He dropped off 100 for seniors and meals on wheels. REPORTEDLY, all 100 were stolen. He ALLEGEDLY dropped off another 100 and 86 were left yesterday when our own super sleuth did some investigative work.
So, only 14 get delivered to meals on wheels seniors? Maybe I'm just not good at math. Or maybe there are only 14 people in town who get meals on wheels. Or maybe I don't believe a word he says.
One day at a time. Say it with me, one day at a time.
We shall overcome.
P.S. No racial overtones intended. The phrase has been co-opted by any one or group who is facing a seemingly insurmountable challenge. Not that there hasn't been some disgusting race baiting recently. But really, we SHALL overcome the rag.
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#34 2009-08-13 09:15:12
Every movement seems to have one or two people who go too far and give the other side ammunition to use against it. That's why it wouldn't surprise me if someone with especially strong objections Robert Slager and his paper did steal the freebees from the COA.
If so they probably read this blog or post here, so I'd say to them to please not do this again. It allows him to paint us all as thieves or worst as terrorists.
We need to urge our side to always take the high road.
We must be smart, we must be persistent and we must be ethical.
The odds generally are against those trying to oust those already in power.
They won't admit it, but that we already show signs that we can defy those odds has the powers that be running scared.
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#35 2009-08-13 09:16:55
I was actually going to say "We are all in this together", but that is quoting High School Musical and now everyone will want to dance!
The reason the stolen paper thing was only a comment and not an article is because there are way too many holes in the story. If you use the word "shortly" as in shortly after I dropped off the papers, and then you find out the papers were dropped off Monday and were sitting there on Wednesday morning, you lose all credibility. Then when some counts the papers in the morning and says approximately 80 and then someone counts the papers in the afternoon and says 86, it becomes a lie.
So, let's see if we can sum this up:
Marcia told Slager the papers were missing, but they weren't. You either have to believe she was lying or he was lying. Either way, I put this on Slager. He had the opportunity to get off his lazy ass and drive down there to check.
Later in the day, he says he had "someone" make a delivery, which is bogus from the start if the same amount of papers were sitting there in the morning(and for two days) and the afternoon.
Again, this is why it was in the comment section and not reported as news.
Now, before I finish packing and head to the airport, I just want to say, Commonsense is right. We really are wasting our time trying to get him to tell the truth. He is a blatant liar and that isn't going to change. I enjoy reading Casual's analysis of his work, so I hope he keeps that up, but I am going to concentrate on what needs to be accomplished for the town meeting and the election. I also have some othe things that I(we) have been working on, so stay tuned!
The great thing about democracy is one person=one vote. Every vote matters! That is how we achieve a majority! If you aren't registered to vote, please visit town hall and register. Encourage your family, friends, and neighbors to register. Hopefully soon, we'll have neighborhood meetings and get the information out to voters, so they can make an informed choice at the town meeting and election day.
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#36 2009-08-13 18:31:55
ARNT THESE PAPERS FREE , YHATS WHAT THEY SAY, SO HOW CAN THEY BE STOLEN MAYBE SOMEONE NEEDEDSOME FOR THEIR BIRDCAGE, FOR LINEING DRAWERS AND FOR WRAPING FISH, FREE THATS WHAT THEY SAY .
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#37 2009-08-13 19:16:48
marny wrote:
Lizdagnome... If you are going to talk to Marcia in person and you DARE to question anything she has said or has done, you should know she will probably start yelling at you.
marny i never got to talk with her yesterday or today but there is always tomorrow.. i will make sure we are in a common area when we talk arent there video cameras in there?? also if someone recorded anything in a common area just saying..i was born at night but not last night... thanks for the heads up.. i wont cut her off in traffic though..
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#38 2009-08-13 21:05:25
LizdaGnome... She usually hangs out downstairs in the cafeteria Friday mornings, that way she gets to talk to Larry before he goes out on meals on wheels. I think she works half day at the library on Fridays. You can ask at the library they'll tell you anything, they can't stand her. I think she works mornings at the COA afternoons library on Fridays.
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#39 2009-08-13 21:12:26
thanks for the tip ill bring my daughter maybe shell keep her cool in front of a child..
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#40 2009-08-13 22:31:08
Does Slager really put "meals on wheelers" in his paper? I always thought it was MEALS ON WHEELS. I know, I'm being petty. Someone above mentioned that his paper is delivered with the meals to shut ins and the elderly. I'm having mixed feelings about this. Some of these people may vote by absentee ballot or maybe they are able to get out to vote. If this is the case, this may be the only local news they have to read. A lot of elderly do not have computers. I'm sure they are greatful for a free paper, but it's scary that they are maybe not getting any other input of town hall happenings. I'm not calling anyone stupid, but if you are alone and this is the only paper you read, and they don't know what a liar Slager is, so maybe they believe him and vote for the people he supports. I don't believe that seniors are all going to be taken in by him, maybe a few will though. My main concern is the fact that the meals on wheels delivers this one sided paper. Does this mean that any one of us could write a two sided page of how we feel about Slager and his lies, copy 100 pages and would the meals on wheels driver deliver our news, too? Would we get yelled at by Marcia the Hun?
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#41 2009-08-13 23:25:26
All you need to do is design a free newsletter.Then drop off 100 copies for the Friday delivery. They must include it with his delivery or they will have to stop delivering his.
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#42 2009-08-13 23:51:47
searay240 wrote:
All you need to do is design a free newsletter.Then drop off 100 copies for the Friday delivery. They must include it with his delivery or they will have to stop delivering his.
Great! How well are you at writing?
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#43 2009-08-14 00:30:40
I'm working on the design now will send it to Bill to post for all to review.
Then you can all submit articles and we will distribute.
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#44 2009-08-14 01:14:02
this was my message to casual a few days ago..
"you have taken several of his STORIES and rewrote them accurate i would love to be able to print them and give them to his stores that carry his paper for free limit it to just 1 page both side just major highlights as the page will fill up quickly hell ill even drive around drop them off put them on cars at the grocery stores just a brain storm."
if ya need help let me know..
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#45 2009-08-14 01:16:51
I applaud your energy. Most of the papers sit in a stack and are simply free for anyone who enters the multiservice center. I would assume that the major targets are the seniors who attend any of the various programs in the building, including the on-site lunch program, bingo, etc: Larry Gaines is the volunteer that delivers the Rag to the small group of elders who receive Meals On Wheels. I find him very difficult, and he has already raised havoc here. He is a volunteer, and I don't think you will make him do anything he doesn't want to do. I would write off the Meals on Wheels folks, since Mr Gaines does not need a newspaper to deliver his opinions to that group. I would insist that the Multiservice Center allow your newsletter to be placed next to the Rag inside the building or the Rag should be discontinued.
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#46 2009-08-14 01:22:46
My boss sent me to Onset Village Market today to purchase the Wareham Observer. I did it with pride.
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#47 2009-08-14 13:24:47
PINKEY YOU SOUND LIKE YOU WORK ON A SEPTIC HAULER TRUCK IN WAREHAM AND WHEN TOU DELEVIRED YOUR LOAD TO THE SEWER PLANT YOU FELL INTO ONE OF THE HOLDING TANKS, YOU MAKE NO SENSE TO ME. SE YA PINK.
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