#1 2009-08-09 11:30:07
I am pasting this message from the spokesperson of the Library Trustees concerning the recent article and jeers by Robert Slager in The Wareham Observer.
Slager states: The former board of library trustees has agreed to a settlement after admitting in court that it lost $250,000 in bad investments over the past several years.
FACT: No one from the trustees or library foundation “admitted” any such thing. There was never a “loss” of $250,000, and the investments continue to be sound.
In the Jeers section Slager states: They didn’t want people to know that $250,000 in private donations to the library were squandered recklessly.
FACT: Over the past ten years, the Trustees and Foundation have spent $500,000 on the library of income from its investments while preserving the principal.
Slager states: After learning that representatives of the library trustees have made public statements regarding the settlement, Bruce Sauvageau, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, said "I’m rather shocked and surprised that representatives of the trustees are making public statements at this time when they were specifically admonished by a federal judge not to do so concerning an agreement that hasn’t even been signed yet."
FACT: The judge never admonished any of the library representatives present in court on Monday not to speak about the case. We cannot comment on what the judge might have said to the selectmen. At the end of the mediation, all parties (except the selectmen who, according to the judge, had already left the building with his permission) convened to the courtroom where the judge read the official mediation agreement into the record, ending the case. The selectmen's attorney assured the judge that the BoS would take an official vote the next evening at the regular Tuesday night BoS meeting.
Slager states: A settlement was reached, but not yet signed, in U.S. District Court on Monday, according to a former trustee, who asked to remain anonymous.
FACT: Since any trustee who was present knows there is nothing yet to be signed, we are puzzled by this reference to an “anonymous” former trustee. The case was complete when the judge declared it so and then read the agreement into the record. We were not told there was anything to be signed. Since the BoS voted in the affirmative at their Tuesday night meeting, the case is finished.
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#2 2009-08-09 11:35:48
THANK YOU NORA FOR GETTING THE FACTS OUT THERE. SLAGER YOU SHOULD RESIGN!
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#3 2009-08-09 11:41:47
Nora,
This is a typical hatchet job by Slager. What I really am curious about is where does he get his information from? I have a feeling he Selectmen are his source of information. IF that is the case, are they violating the agreement by feeding information to the local media?
What a mess this group of Selectmen is making! Is it any wonder people are ready to Take Back Wareham?
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#4 2009-08-09 11:44:00
Has anyone asked the BOS and ITA how much money was lost from the Town of Wareham funds in the past two years from bad investments?
Fannie Mae...Freddie Mac...,etc.
What was the return on Town of Wareham investments compared to three years ago.
Glass houses. Don't throw stones.
The monies that may or may not have been lost by the Library Trustees were PRIVATE monies, not Town funds.
Ergo: the Judge's decision.
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#5 2009-08-09 12:14:14
More misinformation and misrepresentation with just enough spin to suggest ALL others are wrong and the BOS called it right.
Mr. Slager / Shooter (or whoever you are today) why don't you post what it actually cost the taxpayers over two years in the BOS pursuit to be proven WRONG again.
When are you going to get anything right ? You, by your complete incompetence, have caused enough harm on our community. Change your ways or we'll be compelled to step up the boycott effort a notch and force you to move on. It's your choice. As Mr. Urbon wrote : "Shape up or Ship out"...
Shooter, If you are the one lurking here on this site, be sure to pass that along to the Big guy. And you may want to send out resume's seeking employment with a real media group.
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#6 2009-08-09 12:19:59
bruce wouldnt talk to the s-t but he did talk to slager after he said he was shocked someone from the library side talked!! something smell fishy to me..
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#7 2009-08-09 12:55:44
This type of erroneous--libelous--reporting is why I will not read the rag. Lies, lies, and more lies. Enough already.
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#8 2009-08-09 13:24:43
I don't understand why someone fro the library trustees doesn't take slager to court over his untrue statements.
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#9 2009-08-09 13:25:45
Or at leat write letters to the editor of real newspapers - write exactly what was written here.
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#10 2009-08-09 15:00:30
Now is the time to ask several other questions:
1) What will the short-fall in tax monies amount to based on foreclosed homes and lack of taxes collected?
2) How will the assessors realistically evaluate the value of the homes within the neighborhoods now blighted by foreclosed homes?
3)How do you make up the short-fall...taxes, increases in service bills,i.e., water and sewer, etc.?
4)How many Town employees will be affected by loss of holiday pay, reduction of pay by percentage, perhaps not being paid for over-time, being forced to retire replaced by part-time workers who do not qualify for benefits (Chief of Police), etc.?
5) Will you involve yourselves in being married to the Federal Government by bail-out monies that are designed to have you hire people you will never be able to get rid of? Do any of you (BOS) know what I am even talking about?
Get ready tax payers...trouble is on the horizon. Let's just see if the BOS even addresses these important issues.
Ostrich syndrome anyone?
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#11 2009-08-09 15:00:32
WHERE DID SLAGER COME UP WITH HIS INFORMATION SO HE COULD WRITE HIS ARTICLE ON THE TRUSTEE SUIT IF THERE WAS SUPPOSEDLY A GAG ORDER? BRENDA? BRUCE??
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#12 2009-08-09 15:38:40
NOTICE THE TIME STAMP FIRST STORY
Ex-trustees settle after admitting $250,000 loss
By: Robert Slager
Posted: Thursday, August 6, 2009 2:51 am
After learning that representatives of the library trustees have made public statements regarding the settlement, Bruce Sauvageau, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, said "I’m rather shocked and surprised that representatives of the trustees are making public statements at this time when they were specifically admonished by a federal judge not to do so concerning an agreement that hasn’t even been signed yet."
Sauvageau added "I am pleased that we reached an agreement and achieved substantially everything we fought for on principle. And I’m equally pleased that we able to do so at no further risk for legal fees for the town."
SECOND STORY
Tearing apart their tangled web
By: In This Corner - Robert Slager
Posted: Sunday, August 9, 2009 1:16 pm
"I called Bruce Sauvageau around 7:15 a.m., hoping to get comment from the chairman of the Board of Selectmen. He was furious that the other side had defied the gag order and made comments to the Observer to that affect. Sauvageau also confirmed what the former library trustee had told me – that the former trustees told the court they had lost $250,000 in bad investments"
WHO FOUND THE PROBLEM? AND WHAT IS IT? HINT THERE ARE 2..
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#13 2009-08-09 16:51:28
If there was a gag order, why did Bruce confirm what this so-called former trustee said? Wouldn't that have been breaking the gag order? Was he furious with himself too?
According to the trustee spokesperson who wrote the information posted above, there was no gag order. Who is telling the truth?
If ragboy wrote his first article at 2:51 am, how could he quote Brucie if he didn't speak to Bruce until 7:15 am? Am I the only one who is confused here?
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#14 2009-08-09 17:26:00
Priscilla Porter
I want to confirm what Nora has written. I also was present on Monday and we were not told we could not speak about the results of mediation. I also understood that once the BoS voted on Tuesday and the vote given to the judge that was the end.
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#15 2009-08-09 17:42:06
Nora,
I think Slager may have libeled the Friends in his blog today:
Sauvageau also confirmed what the former library trustee had told me – that the former trustees told the court they had lost $250,000 in bad investments. Court records will confirm those comments.
The spin and misinformation was to be expected. After all, the former trustees have claimed for nearly two years that they were the victim of a vendetta by selectmen. If that’s true, why settle the case, giving selectmen the very thing they had sought from the beginning – the authority to appoint the board and have the town treasurer serve as treasurer of the trustees? We suspect the missing $250,000 had a lot to do with that.
Note he goes from suggesting there was culpability in the investment decisions resulting in the loss, to calling the $250,000 "missing", thus suggesting to any reader that there was wrong doing involved.
If anyone didn't loss money in the stock market during the current market crisis I'd like to know who their financial advisor is.
Also, my understanding of what happens when one party violates a gag order is that there can be serious consequences depending on the judge. I think you could be held in contempt and fined or even incarcerated.
Suggesting someone violated a gag order is a major accusation that should be backed up with facts.
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#16 2009-08-09 17:56:27
Molly wrote:
If there was a gag order, why did Bruce confirm what this so-called former trustee said? Wouldn't that have been breaking the gag order? Was he furious with himself too?
According to the trustee spokesperson who wrote the information posted above, there was no gag order. Who is telling the truth?
If ragboy wrote his first article at 2:51 am, how could he quote Brucie if he didn't speak to Bruce until 7:15 am? Am I the only one who is confused here?
EXACTLY MY POINT!! THANK YOU I THOUGHT I LOST MY TIMELINE..
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#17 2009-08-09 19:23:19
So, now two people who were in the courtroom have said there was no gag order.
What I find strange about the posting above from Nora Bicki is that she said the selectmen weren't in the room when the final decision was read. So how could sweet Brucie say the judge claimed a gag order? Two people who were in the room said he didn't. Gotta love those eyewitnesses.
Since there is no gag order, I'd like to hear more about what went on. But is that necessary anyway when the facts speak for themselves?
Steve Urbon's article was pretty clear about the results of the case. That can be proven by reading the court's decision. Even ragboy hasn't denied what Urbon said. So what's all the fuss about?
Ragboy has been saying for two years that the library folks will be proven to be evil people who have committed all kinds of crimes. Doesn't look that way to me. I agree with others who have blogged. If the town or the town's insurance is paying for the legal fees, the verdict is pretty obvious. Remember ragboy was nearly orgasmic when he announced that Chief Joyce had to pay his legal fees? Does that mean ragboy lost that case? Not to hear him tell it.
So ragboy lies about the library money. Has ragboy seen any of the financial records? I'd like to know exactly how much was donated to the trustees and how much was spent on the library. The first post in this thread says $500,000 spent in ten years. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's a lot of money in my little world. But see, I still don't know what was donated or what was invested. So how can I or anyone make assumptions about the bottom line? And again, she said it was $500,000 income on the investments and "the principal" was preserved which I have to think can be proven. I don't even have a 401k but I understand the word income and the word principal. Of course, if a person's job doesn't pay anything but a bagel or two, these complicated finances might seem incomprehensible. Maybe the town's new accountant will be able to tell us what it all means---in three years or so.
Haven't I convinced my fellow bloggers and blog readers yet? The rag is--in my opinion--worthless and not worth the fish wrap it is printed on.
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#18 2009-08-09 19:57:44
urneighbor wrote: " Note he goes from suggesting there was culpability in the investment decisions resulting in the loss, to calling the $250,000 "missing", thus suggesting to any reader that there was wrong doing involved."
Isn't this this the same stragedy he used to build his phoney CV community is not wanted at the 7/30 meeting case? Interesting....BoBo the HoBo..puts untruths in his "all about me" blog, he knows what he writes is not true, yet he begins to believe his own untruths. Why doesn't ms lilly jump in and help him? It appears he is a victim of being reared by an alcoholic.
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#19 2009-08-10 08:22:26
Bobo's innuendo about the "missing" $250,000 is despicable. He has reached a new level of incompetence, which is hard to believe, since I thought the scum bag couldn't go any lower. I want to state that I have never been involved with the whole library issue. I have followed it in the paper but I don't know any of the players. Reading Bobo's article (sorry Molly) and seeing the word "missing" just really pissed me off.
I think this piece of trash that he wrote may motivate anyone who is a supporter of the library. Supporters who have been sitting on the sidelines may want to help with the boycott of the places that still sell the rag. You should go and talk to the owners. If you can't talk to the owners talk to the people who work there, they will pass along your message. I know for some people this face to face may not be easy, bring a friend with you for moral support. I was lucky when I went to the Onset Village Market they were very nice and listened to everything I had to say.
Let's just do it
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#20 2009-08-10 08:36:43
Want to add a sweetener to promoting the boycott. Bill could put FREE ads for the business in the right column here. Of course those ads would link to the businesses websites if they have them.
Want to put icing on the cake, make a simple one page website for the businesses. In fact, I'd be glad to take a photo of them to use.
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#21 2009-08-10 10:08:09
If someone does go to any of the places that sell the rag it is only fair that you warn them that their phone numbers might be listed by Bobo. You should tell the owners that instead of Bobo just accepting their decision not to carry the rag, like a man and a professional. He (Bobo) will whine and post their phone numbers as a way of thanking them for all the years they carried the rag in their places of buisness.
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