#1 2009-07-27 09:02:32
I had an opportunity to review Sunday night's chat at Slagerville. Here are some of the more interesting comments (with my comments, which are more interesting)
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
I'm so sorry for the delay. At 7:59 a computer virus was sent to my home computer. I am not in the office. Live chat has begun. Is there anyone out there still?
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
I mean I am now in the office. It was a 45 minute drive. My hard drive at home was damaged. This is the fourth computer attack in one week at home.
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Thanks for joining us, coach. I was really looking forward to tonight. I do expect we lost some people because of the delay. It's sad that the haters were able to accomlish that by nuking my home computer. These people have no morals.
The last Slager comment came midway through the chat. Apparently he is accusing the hate bloggers of nuking his computer at home. Anyone want to comment on that?
robertslager on 7/26/09
What I wrote was that the executive session meeting began at 6 p.m. and lasted 70 minutes. The part about the bloggers was six minutes of that meeting. So are we to assume that the other 64 minutes were spent exchanging recipes for meatloaf? Of course, the Standard-Times twisted that to mean the audit is all about bloggers.
Anyone have his actual comments about the executive session to show if he lied?
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
I will say I am troubled that the results of the audit are taking this long. I've been told it's because K&P is going through the results with a fine-tooth comb.
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
I was told, off the record, that the audit will result in "life-changing" repercussions for many people. That's all I can say about it right now.
Now, if this is true, then someone is talking out of school. Do we need to contact the Selectmen to ask who is feeding information to the press?
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Paging IHATESLAGER. Come in, IHATESLAGER. You said you would debate me here tonight? Are you out there somewhere or it is past your bedtime (sorry once again).
I think he was sad you were not there IHS.
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Oh, Ms. Lilly, I really hope you don't mean what you wrote about not posting on the other site. These people desperately need a voice of reason among all their lies, distortions and hatred. I know they are mean to you, calling you an alcoholic and assho.. but that only means they are angry that you are smarter than they are.
By: MsLilly on 7/26/09
It is not what they say to me, it's what I say to them...and it's not even the other blogger's fault (well, except for just one, or maybe 2 at the max) I think it comes down to the fact that I'm in the minority...the only way I explain my rude behavior (besides the bottle) is that in my attempt to deflect so many punches from the opposition, I lose control in my fighting frenzy and end up knocking someone out...and there is no satisfaction in that for me...I generally do not have to stoop to personal attacks to get my point across or win an argument...that's why I'm looking forward to being in the majority...to enjoy the chatting, like now, with an occasional left hook every now and then to keep things interesting...
Poor Ms. Lilly. What is interesting is if one of us went to sunday night chat, I'm pretty sure they would be equally nice to us.
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
I was thinking of having a "Sweet Brucie" T-Shirt made just to drive them crazy.
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Maybe we should all wear T-Shirts with the words "All hail Bob Brady" on them. We're sure to get in.
He did make the statement that he was going. A couple of the chatters also commented on attending, and made references to nazi tactics. CoachTP made a comment that will offend most of the Jewish people I know. How blase they treat that whole period of history. I doubt any of them have ever seen the results of holocaust up close and personal. If they did, they would certainly not be as quick to use that reference. Shame on them.
By: CoachTP on 7/26/09
I wonder if my fake sub-standard cub reporter press pass will work??
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Did you steal that from Urbon, Coach?
It's interesting that Slager would say that about Urbon. Slager couldn't even get a job at the S-T, and will likely have to choose a new professional after his paper is closed.
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#2 2009-07-27 09:26:21
If Slager got confidential information about the audit and isn't just blowing hot air out of his(click to enlarge)
it would mean that there's a serious violation by whoever revealed it to him.
As for the computer virus, how many believe in such a coincidence? It sounds a wee bit paranoid to me. First he gives someone here a great deal of credit and second presumably whoever sent the virus was able to bypass his anti-virus software.
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#3 2009-07-27 09:35:52
I passed right over this the first time when reading last night's chat:
By: robertslager on 7/26/09
Is Brady going to decide that the Cape Verdean community can't attend this "community" meeting? The Cape Verdean community has shown strong support for the selectmen. How well do you think that will go over?
Now, I've personally spoken with Mr. Brady and the only people excluded are press. The invitation is for ALL RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE CURRENT WAREHAM GOVERNMENT. That was a poor attempt at trying to start trouble.
What I find odd is that some of the chatters expressed they would be attending. What that means is that they are unhappy with the current slate of Selectmen and want change. As soon as they walk in the door, they have admitted that.
After the comments on by CoachTP, I look forward to meeting him.
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#4 2009-07-27 09:37:22
I think an email to the Selectmen with the quote from Slager will suffice. He claims to have an off the record comment from someone who is in the know. WOw....this guy has his finger on the pulse of Wareham (that was sarcastic)
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#5 2009-07-27 09:39:35
How many members of Crime Watch are Cape Verdean or other people of color?
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#6 2009-07-27 09:39:41
I've been looking into Anti-Sweet Brucey T-shirts for quite some time now and I would be honored if Ragboy wore one.
I'm sure he already has a closet full of "I Heart Sweet Brucey" T-shirts.
Wow, if Ragboy ever needed evidence for his application to the funny farm, just enclose a copy of that chat.
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#7 2009-07-27 09:45:50
There were several comments referencing the Holocaust and the prosecution of the Jewish people. Coach TP was the main culprit of these quotes. First, I have a very strong opinion about people that correlate the massacre of millions of Jews to what is happening in Wareham. I hope he does attend the meeting so that we can have a discussion. I have been to the concentration camps and it leaves a lasting impression on you. Obviously, I have strong ties to the Jewish community (those who know me) and find his sarcasm unacceptable. This needs to be addressed at some point. The same people who preach "hate bloggers" should really check their comments before posting.
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#8 2009-07-27 09:46:18
A flap in the back! That confirms it! A barracuda after 1989 in 80 degree heat!!! What a numbnut!
Neighbor, why are you trying to traumatize us all with such a hideous sight?
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#9 2009-07-27 09:49:11
Can you believe anything he says when we have proven that he lies like a rug?
I'm disturbed that he is getting off the record confidential information from the bos if that is true which we know is true because he has leaked info in the past from executive sessions and other private info. from the bos. This is nothing new. Talk to some former selectmen about things that were leaked from ES.
I still think that if there was some obvious legal infraction from the audit, that the fine tooth comb would have picked it up right away. Life changing repercussions? Do they blog or don't they blog? Are we supposed to forget that? I haven't.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I won't miss miss lilly.
And if they go to the meeting? They admit that they don't like the way the town is being run. And if they try to start to debate the issue, they will be booed loudly. If they are there to take notes for the ragboy, let them knock themselves out. I'm sure he will change their copy to suit his needs in the same way that he used to change Pezzoli's crap.
So, don't let him accomplish what he tries to do---get everyone all upset. He is a proven liar. I don't need to add--in my opinion for that statement--because we all have proof that he has lied. He even lied about not reading the blog anymore. He can't ignore us no matter how many times he says he will. Pants on fire ragboy??
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#10 2009-07-27 09:59:31
Does this dildo really think that the power elite is nuking his computer? Bobo, stop looking at all the porno sites and you won't get computer viruses. And take some anti-paranoia pills.
Maybe we should let him come if he wears a "I'm sorry for the past 3 years" t-shirt and stands in the corner with a dunce cap.
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#11 2009-07-27 10:01:20
Hamatron5000 wrote:
A flap in the back! That confirms it! A barracuda after 1989 in 80 degree heat!!! What a numbnut!
Neighbor, why are you trying to traumatize us all with such a hideous sight?
For the full effect I hope you all clicked the image to enlarge it.
Aren't you glad that my camera and I are on your side....
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#12 2009-07-27 10:03:17
Yes...and no, I'm not going to click to enlarge it...what are you trying to give me a myocardial infarcation?
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#14 2009-07-27 10:29:17
I'm blind! I've gone blind!!!
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#15 2009-07-27 10:42:08
The last Slager comment came midway through the chat. Apparently he is accusing the hate bloggers of nuking his computer at home. Anyone want to comment on that?
Quite simply, that's crap. There's no way to get his home IP address, which would be necessary to 'target' him - if he's reading the site, but not posting through any account (and I haven't seen any posts that appear to be from him), there's no way to isolate his IP address from the hundreds or thousands of others that hit this site. It's trivial to get that information if people are logged in, but even then the info might be inaccurate - for example, if users are coming through a proxy server. Add to that the fact that current day "always on" internet connections (cable, DSL, Fios, etc) have firewalls built-in, it's extroadinarily difficult for an external attacker to target your home computer. Viruses and other malware are now mostly spread through websites - you go out to an infected site (knowingly or not) and your computer downloads the "bad stuff". The key here is that the user in question initiates the connection, and it doesn't come from an outside attacker targeting that user.
Now, if this is true, then someone is talking out of school. Do we need to contact the Selectmen to ask who is feeding information to the press?
I'm also intrigued by the fact that he just published something that was told to him "off the record"...seems to bring up an interesting issue in journalism ethics (not that he hasn't crossed those lines before)
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#16 2009-07-27 10:56:52
His last claim was--I promised it was off the record but I thought it was too important not to print.
Real trustworthy.
Real journalists respect any off the record comments that are made. Need I say more?
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#17 2009-07-27 10:57:08
I have two thoughts on the "off the record quote".
First, it better be true or he will be left with a egg on his face.
Second, earth shattering is pretty large. So, if this is about blogging from work, that doesn't qualify. If it's about misappropriation of funds, that is significant. IF that is the case, then I expect there to be a great deal of fall out. To be honest, I don't anticipate anything worse than private use and blogging.
Then it will be another example of overkill and poor fiscal responsibility.
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#18 2009-07-27 11:11:19
Are the auditors allowed to release preliminary reports even to the BOS?
If so, which seems unlikely, it seems far more unlikely they can discuss this with a reporter.
How independent are the auditors?
Who are they answerable to?
Is their raw data going to be handed over to objective authorities in addition to their conclusions?
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#19 2009-07-27 11:17:18
SINCE WHEN WAS I SUPPOSED TO DEBATE SLAGER THIS SUNDAY NIGHT? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LOG INTO HIS CHAT WHEN IM NOT A MEMBER AND NEVER WILL BE. YES I SAID I WOULD DEBATE HIM ANYTIME BUT IM NOT GOING TO PAY 5 BUCKS TO JOIN HIS CLUBHOUSE. IF ANYONE CAN THINK OF HOW THIS CAN BE DONE WITHOUT GIVING HIM 5 BUCKS LET ME KNOW. I WILL NEVER GIVE HIM A PENNY. BOBO EVER HEAR OF AN ANTI VIRUS? YOUR SO DELUSIONAL ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY
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#20 2009-07-27 11:18:25
In the audit reports I have read or been involved in, the audit report is compromised of the following:
1. Scope of the audit
2. Method for selecting and retrieving data
3. The method for review of the material
4. The findings
5. Opinion of the findings.
I would think K&P will be making sure they follow the proper procedures and reporting. That may be why it is taking so long.
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#21 2009-07-27 11:26:11
I'm sure what bobo meant to say was, I got into a fight again with my wife and she said there's no way your doing that chat bullshit instead of ignoring your family again. So I had to drive to my office for the chat, and ultimately sleep in my office chair again.
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#22 2009-07-27 11:34:12
Are the auditors allowed to release preliminary reports even to the BOS?
When I've performed similar assessments in the past, we have generally kept our key contacts (the folks paying the bill) up to date with any and all findings, or potential findings. It's important to note that, even though they're calling this an 'audit', it's really not - at least to the level of providing an attestation service. The firm performing the work is saying "this is what we looked at, and this is what we found", not "this is what we looked at, this is what we found, and this is what we think about that". That last point, the opinion, is what comes in financial audit reports, and makes all the difference in the world in delineating the two types of assessments.
How independent are the auditors?
Not. even. a little. They're working for whoever hired them, and as stated above are not really "auditing", so there's no need for independence. When I perform security assessments, I often work with the key contacts to "massage" the findings in such a manner that it helps them get to the ends that they have in mind. I have no reason to believe that this assessment would be any different. This is very, very, very different from an independent financial audit, where no such collaboration is allowed.
Is their raw data going to be handed over to objective authorities in addition to their conclusions?
Doubtful. Again, they're working for the BOS/ITA, and have no reason to be answerable to anybody else.
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#23 2009-07-27 11:34:14
Larry McDonald wrote:
In the audit reports I have read or been involved in, the audit report is compromised of the following:
1. Scope of the audit
2. Method for selecting and retrieving data
3. The method for review of the material
4. The findings
5. Opinion of the findings.
I would think K&P will be making sure they follow the proper procedures and reporting. That may be why it is taking so long.
It seems to me common sense that for an auditing company to have any credibility and stay in business they have to follow the strict rules you lay out, plus rules for who gets the information, how and when. True?
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#24 2009-07-27 11:36:51
acasualobserver wrote:
Are the auditors allowed to release preliminary reports even to the BOS?
When I've performed similar assessments in the past, we have generally kept our key contacts (the folks paying the bill) up to date with any and all findings, or potential findings. It's important to note that, even though they're calling this an 'audit', it's really not - at least to the level of providing an attestation service. The firm performing the work is saying "this is what we looked at, and this is what we found", not "this is what we looked at, this is what we found, and this is what we think about that". That last point, the opinion, is what comes in financial audit reports, and makes all the difference in the world in delineating the two types of assessments.
How independent are the auditors?
Not. even. a little. They're working for whoever hired them, and as stated above are not really "auditing", so there's no need for independence. When I perform security assessments, I often work with the key contacts to "massage" the findings in such a manner that it helps them get to the ends that they have in mind. I have no reason to believe that this assessment would be any different. This is very, very, very different from an independent financial audit, where no such collaboration is allowed.
Is their raw data going to be handed over to objective authorities in addition to their conclusions?
Doubtful. Again, they're working for the BOS/ITA, and have no reason to be answerable to anybody else.
That is really disappointing, especially if it means that information implicating the current BOS in wrongdoing can be covered up.
However, can the DA subpoena the raw data?
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#25 2009-07-27 12:05:31
It seems to me common sense that for an auditing company to have any credibility and stay in business they have to follow the strict rules you lay out, plus rules for who gets the information, how and when. True?
The catch is that it's not an auditing company. It's not PwC, KPMG, etc performing the work. It's an IT company that specializes in forensic investigations. This company was hired by the ITA, at the behest of the BOS. There's no regulatory drivers or anything else that you would see in, for example, a publicly-traded company. The BOS's sole motivation for releasing any information that they might choose to divulge is political. They've taken so much heat for this thing that they need to be able to say "See! It was worth it! Somebody did ________ and we fired them so now we've cleaned up Sin City!" Given that this is their motivation, and there's nothing pushing them to release an objective set of data, why would they share anything that doesn't support their position(s)? The only way I can see any sort of raw data getting out is either through a leak somewhere, or a subpoena through some sort of lawsuit that arises from either the assessment, or actions taken as a result of the assessment.
However, can the DA subpoena the raw data?
Perhaps, if he/she had a reason to do so. I'm not sure what that reason would be, though
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#26 2009-07-27 12:13:55
Where have you people been all of my life? When I log on and read these posts I am amazed at the knowledge, foresight, intelligence and overall competency. You will win whatever you decide to put your minds to. There are no others publishing on any other sites that even compare to you.
Hate bloggers? No...political activists...and damn good ones!
Thank you.
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#27 2009-07-27 13:42:46
Maybe he will come here and debate you!!!
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#28 2009-07-27 14:30:54
LIKE I SAID I WILL DEBATE HIM ANYTIME BUT IM NOT GOING TO GIVE HIM MY 5 BUCKS TO DO IT. THIS IS A FREE SITE AND I CHALLENGE HIM TO A DEBATE HERE
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#29 2009-07-27 14:31:36
If somebody is fired as a result of the audit of their computer and sues for wrongful termination, and of this I am pretty certain, they have a right to see the all evidence against them.
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#30 2009-07-27 14:31:51
WHY CANT A TAXPAYER GET ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE AUDIT BUT A REPORTER CAN BE GIVEN UNLIMITED ACCESS "OFF THE RECORD" ?
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#31 2009-07-27 15:38:13
OK. Lets give BOBO's allegations a whirl. According to him:
1) Blogging was not the main focus of the audit;
2) The town-wide audit was a cover-up so the intended target (s) would not know they were the focus;
3) The intended targets are so stupid that they recorded all of their criminal activity on town-owned computers at work;
4) Whatever their criminal act, it exceeds the $51,000 that it has cost to uncover it;
5) This corruption required that the BOS investigate (I guess that state and federal agencies that are set-up to play Sherlock Holmes just wouldn't cooperate?)
I'm just not buying it.
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#32 2009-07-27 15:43:18
We paid for it, but like swift's beach it looks like the audit is locked up tight. The audit is locked up for everyone but ragboy that is, who is not a taxpayer and didn't pay a penny for it.
Does anyone have the most recent total of what the computer audit is costing the town?
I imagine that for fine tooth comb work, Kopelman and Prostitute--just my opinion folks---must be raking--or combing it in if you will. Of course, prostitutes really know how to work a mark/john to get the most money for the least amount of work--in other words, I think we are getting f****d yet again by town counsel. Ouch.
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#33 2009-07-27 15:57:16
Actually, if town counsel really is doing that much work on this anti-blogger witch hunt, then it would not surprise me if the price tag of hunting down those who have hurt Sweet Brucey and Friends' fragile feelings is approaching $100,000 or more.
Speculation, but as the Courier said, the public has a right to know how much and where the money came from. I never knew the town had barrells of money lying around off of the town meeting budget's books to turn to stop hurters of the BOS' feelings.
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#34 2009-07-27 15:57:53
And it does warm my heart to see Sweet Brucey has become so popular that even Bobo uses the term.
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#35 2009-07-27 22:56:51
What kind of an idiot is he that he would blame his computer incompetence on 'the haters'. Shows he knows nothing about computers. Other than through email, is there a way to target a computer - 4 times this month - and destroy its hard drive? Anything for sympathy. What a sad sack! Did he ever hear of taking control of your own life and take measures to prevent his hateful friends from destroying his computer....
Geeze his whole life is spent obsessing about this website. How threatened he must feel. BoBo, relax. Come on over to our side.
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#36 2009-07-27 23:27:37
Every time this wack job has a problem with his damn computer, he blames it on a power elite conspiracy.
He wrote a column a year or two ago, where he said that he almost quit because the power elite somehow hacked his computer in an attempt to shut the rag down. No exaggeration, he literally wrote that at that point, God intervened to tell him that he needed to keep printing the rag. He said it was cold outside, yet he touched the sign outside his office, and the sign was warm. He took the warmth of his sign to be a sign from God - that the Almighty Creator of All in the Universe wanted his holy word spread in a paper that looks like it is written and proofread by a first grader.
I always figured the real reason the sign was warm was because one of the Cat Lady's cats took a dump on the sign. It was feline intervention, not divine intervention.
I also assume that because it was cold weather, he was wearing his bermuda shorts. Maybe in such a chilly state of dress, things that usually seem cold appeared warmer than they are.
Anyway, anytime this dickwad has computer problems, he blames the power elite.
I don't know, I always heard that porno sites have viruses...wonder what the Ragman has been looking at lately, hmmm....
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#37 2009-07-28 00:14:52
WELL IT DOES GET LONELY ON HIS COUCH AT THE OFFICE
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#38 2009-07-28 08:57:12
And those sites where you can get serial numbers to run programs are loaded with viruses. I've been there, got them. Some of the time my virus program caught them. A year or so ago, I took my computer in for repairs and the tech told me the computer was loaded with viruses...oh well...maybe bobo put them there.
I do remember when he wrote about the power elite destroying his computer and I think he wrote they gave him diabetes, too. I don't remember the warmth of the sign though...but I think I remember the barmuda shorts in a snow storm.
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#39 2009-07-28 09:10:46
I don't know, I always heard that porno sites have viruses...wonder what the Ragman has been looking at lately, hmmm....
"Honey, I swear I wasn't looking at porn again. It's that God-damn power elite with their nipples... Er I mean viruses."
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#40 2009-07-28 09:53:16
Targeting one specific computer to load a virus is pretty sophisticated. If someone has that level of expertise they might be able to load a keystroke tracker Trojan horse virus ((read more)
and copy every email and draft of every article he wrote.
That would make more sense than just harassing him by causing his computer to crash.
As for the sign feeling warm, this think that could be a symptom of diabetes. He should tell Doctor Spaceman.
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#41 2009-07-28 11:50:59
HE IS A NUT CASE , WHERE ARE YHE GUYS IN WHITE COATS
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#42 2009-07-28 12:04:31
HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHERE HE WAS. IM AT HOME, NO AT IM AT THE OFFICE. ISNT IT THE SAME THING? I WILL ALWAYS WONDER WHY SLAGER WAS TALKING WITH A FEMALE OUTSIDE HIS OFFICE LAST WEEK AT 11:30PM?
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#43 2009-07-28 14:01:09
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF BOBO
Oh, I woke up late! The power elite must have tampered with my alarm clock! Oh, I have to go to the bathroom. Damn it, the power elite stole all my toilet paper! Let's have some breakfast. Damn it, the power elite ate my last bagel! Ok time to brush my teeth, damn it, I'm all out of toothpaste, why did the power elite steal it all? They probably want me to get cavities. Oh it's so hot today! I need to put my Barracuda on! Where did I put it? Oh, the damn power elite stole my barracuda! Let me go online and see what those hatebloggers are saying, oh no, my computer doesn't work, it must be all the porn, uh I mean the power elite!!
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