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#1 2009-07-21 21:10:34
ARE YOU SHITTING ME? SHE IS A NEW HIRE AND HAS NO EXPERIENCE, NO DEGREE BUT PROMISES TO GET AN ACCT DEGREE. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?????
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#2 2009-07-21 21:14:24
I agree...that is an insult. I hope they are paying her as a high school grad, because that is essentially what she is.
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#3 2009-07-21 21:15:00
SO SHE WILL BE GOING TO SCHOOL TO GET AN ACCT DEGREE BUT HAS ALREADY STARTED THE POSITION....SO HER DUTIES FOR THE TOWN WILL BE DISTRACTED BY GOING TO SCHOOL FULL TIME....DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PROBLEM HERE??????
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#4 2009-07-21 21:15:25
WHAT THE?!
Did they say this during the meeting? I got bored with VADAR systems crap and changed the channel.
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#5 2009-07-21 21:15:52
WHY DOESNT MARTHA TAKE ON THAT POSITION AS WELL
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#6 2009-07-21 21:19:17
No experience as in she sees numbers and says "what the hell are these strange symbols?" or what?
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#7 2009-07-21 21:21:16
What kind of douchebaggery is this? Surely a town this size should have an accountant with several years of experience and a Master's in Accounting...and problem, under normal circumstances would get one, but apparently with this crew of jerkwads running the show, this is the best that we can get.
Just like the library...libraries cutting back staff, a bad economy, and our library is one of the best around yet we only get 3 applications.
NO ONE WANTS TO WORK FOR THESE CLOWNS!
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#8 2009-07-21 21:23:32
12 PEOPLE APPLIED FOR LIBRARY DIRECTOR. DID THESE PEOPLE ONLY HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA ALSO? IS BRENDA THE MOST UNEDUCATED PERSON THAT EVER SPOKE? LIZ WHAT ARE YOU WRITING DOWN? LIZ'S NEWS FOR YOUR KITTIES?
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#9 2009-07-21 21:26:02
A CAT LADY OBSERVATION:
"Oh, I hate it when I can't hear what the people are saying, I won't have anything to think about when I sit at Little Harbor and miss owning my own newspaper and how all I have now is a damn 100 watt lightbulb!"
Last edited by Hamatron5000 (2009-07-21 21:30:23)
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#10 2009-07-21 21:29:04
WHO IS THE NEW ACCT,WHER E DID SHE COME FROM ,DID SHE GO TO THE BROCTON SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH BROCTON BRENDA , IS IT JOHN DONAHUES SISTER , SHIT WE HAVE TO GET A RECALL GOING ON AND FAST WE CANT WAIT TILL APRIL.
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#11 2009-07-21 21:38:34
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE A TOWN THIS SIZE NEEDS AN ACCOUNTANT WITH A DEGREE , WE GET RID OF GOOD PEOPLE AND REPLACE THEM WITH LOSERS , IS SHE A FREIND OF BROCTON BRENDA? THIS IS NOT RIGHT AND SHOULD BE A RESON FOR A RECALL, GET RID OF THESE IDIOTS NOW,
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#12 2009-07-21 21:41:37
I REMEMBER WHEN THE TOWN ELECTED LIZ THE FAT ASS PEZOLI TREASUER , SHE SCREWED UP THE JOB WITHIN A YEAR THAT THEY HAD TO HIRE A TREASUER AND MAKE THE JOB APPOINTED, WE ARE A TOWN RUN BY LOSERS,
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#13 2009-07-21 21:41:53
BREAKING NEWS: Town hires town accountant with no accounting degree during a town wide computer audit.
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#14 2009-07-21 21:50:56
What should concern them most is that they had an advertisement through the MMA (Mass Municiplal Association) requiring a "Bachelor's degree in public administration, finance, business administration or related fields; masters degree preferred. Three to five years professional accounting experience with municipal finance experience preferred....Special Criteria: The successful applicant MUST be a qualified CPA and have FULL knowledge of the VADAR accounting system".
I met her, I like her, but she shouldn't have been an applicant by those standards. What about how many other potential applicants that we didn't make an exception for ? Who was responsible for the screening ? Was that the best applicant we had ? Alot of questions need answers. Maybe the ITA is under too much pressure since he fired the "qualified, 15 year town accountant" and hired an accounting firm with little or no VADAR experience.
Just a touch of insight that I think citizens should know. In fact, this is much of why the Fin Com can't get answers to many financial questions asked of the ITA but the BOS appointed him. Finally, after more than a year, they have advertised for a "qualified" TA. Why would they have shirked that responsibilty ?
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#15 2009-07-21 22:02:24
BREAKING NEWS: The Cat Lady yells that she can't hear anything during a town wide computer audit.
MORE BREAKING NEWS: People say they don't give a crap, Cat Lady, go play with your halogen bulb severance package, during a town wide computer audit.
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#16 2009-07-21 22:28:34
Ham you are so funny.
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#17 2009-07-22 00:24:44
In an earlier go-around a couple of months ago, there was an accounting candidate that was not even contacted by the ITA or any other Wareham official.
This candidate has a BBA in Accounting, and although he let his CPA and CIA certifications lapse as he approached retirement, he thought it might be interesting to bring his 30+ years of experience as an external CPA auditor and internal CIA (Certified Internal Auditor) and Accounting Supervisor to the challenges currently facing Wareham. While not having direct experience with VADAR (which, by the way, is an accounting system primarily used in Massachusetts communities AND HAS THE INTERNAL CAPABILITY OF EXTRACTING DATA FROM ITS SYSTEM FILES INTO EXCEL SPREADSHEET FORMAT), he does have extensive experience with over a dozen various accounting systems (including Oracle Government Financials and Lawson Financial Systems), as well as a prior lifetime experience as a programmer in Cobal, Fortran, Basic Assembler and RPG, and to top it off, is fluent in Microsoft Office products (Word, PowerPoint and EXCELl, including writing EXCEL MACRO ROUTINES) as well as data base reporting systems such as Crystal Reports, RRW, and SAS, along with data base systems such a Dbase, Rbase, Oracle SQL and the list goes on.
This candidate, who had served in times of corporate bankruptcy (Ames Department Stores) and federal RICO investigations of municipal corruption (City of Providence) did not assume that he would be needed for an extended period, but rather as an interim professional 'consultant' as it were, to get Wareham back on its feet and moving successfully into the 21st Century. NOT EVEN CONTACTED BY ANY WAREHAM OFFICIAL!! HELLO, IS ANYBODY HOME HERE??
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#18 2009-07-22 01:00:44
SO THEY HIRE SOMEONE WITH OUT A DEGREE , THE PROBLEM WITH THIS GUY AS I AM SURE THE SELECTMAN SAW IT IS THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN PROVIDENCE AND RICO AND PROBALY CIANCI AND SINCE THIS BOARD OF SELECTMAN ARE CROOKS THEY DID NOT WANT AN HONEST PERSONIN WAREHAM LOOKING OVER THERE SHOULDERS , THEY CAN PROBLY CONTROL THIS PERSON TILL THE DOR COMES IN AND WHEN WILL THIS PERSON GET HER DEGREE AND 5 YEARS EXPERIENCE , BY THEN WE WILL BE BANKRUPT AND THE SELECTMAN IN JAIL.
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#19 2009-07-22 01:02:47
CAN THIS WOMEN EVVEN TYPE?
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#20 2009-07-22 01:10:06
IHL - I agree w/your assumption that the current bos/ita did not even want to talk to someone who could figure out their scheming ways.
A more important point is that there are experienced professionals who might be willing to bring their expertise to bear on the current financial issues facing Wareham. But to not even be given the courtesy of an interview and then see the hiring of a non-degreed wanna-be is truly insulting.
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#21 2009-07-22 02:35:00
Falcon:
I'm sorry that Wareham lost the opportunity to gain from your experience. We need help from as many sane and wise people as possible. Usually the BOS meetings leave me feeling slightly nauseous, but other parts of my life bring me happiness and joy. Tonight I cannot escape a deep feeling of sadness.-This is a town that has problems but incredible potential. It is being ruined by incompetent idiots.
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#22 2009-07-22 08:15:58
I think the most insulting thing is that they THINK this person can come in and as the ITA puts it, "be a valuable part of the management". Now, as a long time accounting professional (25+ years and MBA), this is ludicruous. The ITA clearly doesn't understand accounting or how it fits in or he wouldn't have made this hire. No offense to the person they hired, but this is a poor reflection on the ability to comprehend what is needed to run a town.
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#23 2009-07-22 08:36:34
They just want to continue to hire those who are timid and will not question their authority. They will continue to drag this town down even after there is evidence time after time of improper and wrong doing.
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#24 2009-07-22 10:01:16
I find myself agreeing with the "they don't want someone that can figure out their crap" theory.
They were complaining that the town had no money, then they fire the accountant, and suddenly they have a magic pot of money somewhere from which to dip in and take $51,000 to spend on an Anti-Blogger SWAT team.
Methinks the previous accountant would have protested too much.
I don't mean to disparage this woman, everyone starts out on the bottom and maybe one day she'll be a great accountant, and if she were hired for a support job in the accountant office, it wouldn't be a problem.
But this town is too big and has too many problems to have a trainee as the head of the accounting department.
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#25 2009-07-24 12:24:57
BREAKING NEWS: Bobo the Hobo identifies the new town accountant as Elizabeth "Biz" Zaleski.
Bobo further reports that the Interim Butt Monkey refused his request for a copy of her resume, and did not respond to emails requesting her qualifications.
Speaks volumes!
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#26 2009-07-24 12:55:27
Zaleski has worked in Abington since 2006 as assistant accountant had worked as a bookkeeper for a variety of small businesses prior to that. She came to the interview with her arms full of documents, including the recently completed audit.
From article about Halifax search for their town accountant
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#27 2009-07-24 13:00:02
BREAKING NEWS: Thank God for Google!!!
Grandpa Bobo, don't you read your home town newspaper?
http://www.wickedlocal.com/halifax/home … candidates
Tiny Halifax, half the size of Wareham, turned Zaleski down for their Town Accountant position.
FROM WICKED LOCAL HALIFAX:
"Zaleski has worked in Abington since 2006 as assistant accountant had worked as a bookkeeper for a variety of small businesses prior to that. She came to the interview with her arms full of documents, including the recently completed audit."
Question - How does someone get hired to be a town accountant when they don't have a degree?
Well, I don't know, but coming from the same town governement (Abington) where the ITA Butt Monkey used to work probably helps!!!
Sure doesn't hurt!
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#28 2009-07-24 13:00:34
Neighbor, you're too quick!
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#29 2009-07-24 13:18:48
The funny thing about this article is the Halifax selectmen held 25-minute a piece public interviews with 4 finalists, then took a week to think about it before finally announcing their decision.
Meanwhile, our BOS pretty much announces one day, "Hey jerks, this is our new accountant. She doesn't have a degree but we'll give her 3 years to get one. Don't ask any more questions."
Ahhh, I think we should all trade. Bobo can move to Wareham and we'll all move to Halifax.
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#30 2009-07-24 13:28:07
the new acct didnot get the job in hallifax atown of 10k , she hat 2 years experiencein in abbinghton ma where she worked with sanquist,who was fired in abginton for not doing his job, we have 5 times the population of halifax and halifax would nt hire her and she has to get on the job retraining . what is her salery ,is she getting what acct bliss got when she has to learn the job . she should not have been hired . have we gotbthatb deserpate. we need to get new selectman in so we can get rid of her after her 6 monthes. trial period
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#31 2009-07-24 13:38:28
I can certainly appreciate she has experience, but there is something to be said for having a degree. There is a great difference between bookkeeping and accounting. Again, as an accounting professional this offends me a great deal.
My next question is, who is paying for her degree?
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#32 2009-07-24 13:45:21
The funny thing is they just hide and deflect anything.
Of course the BOS wouldn't publicly comment on her background. She's from the same town government as Interim Butt Monkey.
Bobo pretends like he doesn't know about her background? Read your hometown paper, Bobo.
I don't mean to disparage her, I suppose being the Assistant Accountant of Abington counts for something (though being a bookkeeper for small businesses doesn't count for that much in my opinion) - but the main complaint is that any town, especially one the size of Wareham with the fiscal problems that Wareham is facing should have an Accountant with a Master's in Accounting degree. I think we should have a CPA.
When they say she doesn't have an accounting degree, what do they mean? Does she have a bachelor's degree at least? What degree is she going for within 3 years?
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#33 2009-07-24 14:06:16
Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English). “Now I’m opening out like the largest telescope that ever was! Good-bye, feet!” (for when she looked down at her feet they seemed to be almost out of sight, they were getting so far off). “Oh, my poor little feet, I wonder who will put on your shoes and stockings for you now, dears? I’m sure I shan’t be able! I shall be a great deal too far off to trouble myself about you: you must manage the best way you can—but I must be kind to them,” thought Alice, “or perhaps they won’t walk the way I want to go! Let me see. I’ll give them a new pair of boots every Christmas.”
And she went on planning to herself how she would manage it. “They must go by the carrier,” she thought; and how funny it’ll seem, sending presents to one’s own feet! And how odd the directions will look!
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#34 2009-07-24 14:31:39
I will say this, Slager got it right when he said the ITA's actions are appalling. It's about time Slager got the same treatment I have received. I have no respect for the ITA and it will be worth a toast when he is hired by Red Lobster to stock the lobster tank! This guy has lied, refused to respond to requests, and has a really bad beard or whatever it is.
It's a pity he will find out that the Selectmen use you, and then toss you to the wind.
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#35 2009-07-24 14:34:39
Larry, when did Ragman say that?
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#36 2009-07-24 14:36:47
BREAKING NEWS: Ragman SCOOPED by the bloggers during a town wide computer audit!
Grandpa Bobo, you really didn't know the background of Wareham's new accountaint when she was a finalist for a job in your own home town? In your own backyard? That's pretty damn lame, Ragboy. We all found it out in 2 seconds through google.
SCOOPED! RAGMAN SCOOPED!
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#37 2009-07-24 14:37:06
IN his Jeer and Cheers section. I know, I was shocked too. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall and wants to distance himself from himself? :)
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#38 2009-07-24 14:38:13
Oh I missed it because I'd rather flush my 75 cents down the toilet. What did he jeer ITABM for?
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#39 2009-07-24 14:40:04
I missed it because there was like a 7 page jeer for Steve Urbon so I must have glazed over ITABM's jeer.
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#40 2009-07-24 14:41:05
Larry,
I will say this, the TA that they recently fired for not bowing to their every request, helped us out here in Onset on a few major issues. This guy responded to calls and emails. When we had a crime issue here, he came to a meeting and listened to our concerns, then worked with Cheif Joyce and his Lt. until our issue was resolved.
He gave us straight answers to our questions. And that's what we deserve as voters and taxpayers. We may not have liked all the original answers but working with the group and the Police, the issues were resoved.
Unfortunately that period of our history in Wareham has ended, and this is what we have to deal with now.
They received 12 applications for the new Town Administrators position, I would hope this to be an open process, however based on the Accountant hiring, I think they will just keep the ITA, they may have some interviews to quiet the citizens but they will be phoney.
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#41 2009-07-24 14:47:39
when joe murphey spplied and was hired as town acct 3 town adminstrators ago there were close to 100 appllications and that is a fact.is this window dressing to give the current ita the job , has he applied for the job
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#42 2009-07-24 14:51:18
Searay,
I started out in an adverse relationship with the former TA. As time went along, we had a much better relationship and dicussed many things. I felt he was the guy who would help Wareham turn the corner, but that was not to be. I smiled when I found out they had to pay him a settlement. He found a job rather quickly, and kudos to him!
I don't put faith in any hire the Selectmen make. Instead of the best candidate, they would prefer someone who can be manipulated. I don't see them keeping the iterim guy, he has just about served his purpose. They will be discarding him sooner than later.
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#43 2009-07-24 14:55:40
I also want to mention something that I keep in the back of my mind. A certain Selectmen has preached about how this form of government doesn't work and has been seeking (for some time) to change the structure of the Government. I can't help but think they are looking to move towards a mayor, which they would LOVE to fill with a family member. I have heard speculation that there are some Selectmen interested in a paid position.
With all that said, I have to think that many of the concerns I have are part of a bigger plan to bring down the structure and resurrect it with them making plenty of money instead of just being arrogant unemployed rulers.
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#44 2009-07-24 15:08:33
Does this woman have accountants under her to do the grunt work? You can't mess around with the books. If she doesn't know what she is doing, it will show up when the town has its independent audit. If the auditor is incapable of doing the audit, he won't do it and it will cost the town a lot money to get the books on order. If the mistakes the auditor finds are a 'material deficiency', they will be reported to whomever is the reporting agency....and that will not be good for wareham?
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#45 2009-07-24 15:20:09
Larry,
Don't we the people have to VOTE to change our form of town government even if the new charter review committee--as instructed by the bos--began their deliberations by saying they wanted to change the form of government rather than review the charter?
They can't do it without us, and if we vote for mayoral government, we lose our voice and our vote at town meeting.
As to the new accountant, we should know pretty quick how qualified she is. I heard the books are a mess because the temp they hired only did the basics once a week. It won't take long.
And where did 12 applications for TA come from? At the meeting I thought they said they had 12 for the library director. I didn't hear them mention TA applications at all. Did I miss it?
I think they are delaying appointing new people to save money. They don't pay the coa director to "direct" the library and with butt-monkey doing ita job his assistant salary has not been paid to anyone for over a year. Hiring a non-accountant for that position should save us money. Is this government on the cheap? Lucky us. And yes, that is satire.
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#46 2009-07-24 15:24:58
Molly,
Based on the last few elections, I'm sure they are counting on low voter turnout, which plays to their strength. They know how to mobilize supporters for votes. The last town meeting proved that.
I won't comment any further on the Town Accountant. I hope she does fine, but if not, it should fall directly on the BOS. They have to approve her hiring.
They may save a bit of money, but they are spending it faster than they are saving it.
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#47 2009-07-24 15:47:04
Here's a thought. Maybe they want to make the Prudential accountant look good.
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#48 2009-07-24 16:18:49
LOL Mixie---but wouldn't that take a miracle? Or better yet, a calculator?
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