#1 2009-07-19 13:30:43
SO BOBO HAS A FULL PAGE AD AND HE CLAIMS HIS NEW WEBSITE NUMBERS ARE IN. THIS IS WHAT HE CLAIMS: (BYE THE WAY I GOT MY FREE PAPER, I HAVE NEVER PAID FOR IT LIKE COLEMAN HAS FOR OTHER THINGS)
IN ONE MONTH HE CLAIMS:
17,192 VISITORS
57,805 PAGE HITS
443,498 STORY HITS
AND GROWING...
DOES ANYONE ELSE FIND THESE NUMBERS UNBELIEVABLE. YEAH SINCE ANY GIVEN TIME I HAVE GONE TO HIS SITE I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THAN 10 USING HIS SITE. MOST OF THE TIME THE COUNTER READS 3 TO 5. HOW CAN THESE NUMBERS BE TRUE YOU ASK? WELL A LITTLE RESEARCH SHOWS HOW THESE NUMBERS CAN BE ACHEIVED. WITH A TRI-TOWN POPULATION OF APPROX 38,000 INCLUDING WAREHAM, ROCHESTER, AND MARION HE WOULD LEAVE ONE TO BELIEVE THAT 17,192 PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT HIS SITE. WHAT THE REAL NUMBER THAT IS IMPORTANT IS MYSTERIOUSLY LEFT OUT. WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS OF SUBSCRIBERS HE HAS. WHY WAS THAT NUMBER LEFT OUT? IM SURE IF IT WAS THOUSANDS HE WOULD BE TOUTING THOSE NUMBERS. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GO TO THE TWO SITE BELOW AND MAYBE SLAGER CAN BE MORE HONEST IN HIS ADS.
http://www.opentracker.net/en/articles/ … eviews.jsp
http://www.webmarketingnow.com/tips/hitsvsvisits.html
CHEERS!
I GUESS 10 PEOPLE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS ON A WEBSITE!!!
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#2 2009-07-19 14:43:28
As we all know he fabricates everything he talks about. And who is he posting those imaginary numbers for? his half dozen subscribers? Like
I've said many times, don't even acknowledge him and he'll have to go away.
Amen. Do I hear a hallelujah ? I dusted off a whole set of glasses. I'm planning a champagne bash. Anyone like Moet Chandon ?
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#3 2009-07-19 15:23:22
Moet is my fave bbrady. I'll lift a glass with you. My ragboy mantra--ignore him and he will shrivel up and die--not a threat, of course, I'm just speaking metaphorically which is also just my opinion.
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#4 2009-07-19 15:42:47
thanyou mr i hate slager you prove that slager lies and sling bull shit he is full of it.
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#5 2009-07-19 16:49:33
The data on HERE on Alexa, another traffic tracking site (on left of each page) say his readership has gone down since he became a paid site. Check the page views and page views per user. In past 3 mos. the first is down 60%, second down 40%.
If he's soliciting advertising based on these numbers I would hope he gives the exact method the numbers are determined to potential advertisers. If he is selling advertising based on misleading numbers I say the advertisers should know this, if they are based on fraudulent numbers we move into a different realm; like perhaps fraud.
His lack of advertising acumen is demonstrated (I wrote this before) in that clicks on the ads which have their own websites, like Used Tire Warehouse, which has a big ad, and keithisremodeling on his free website link you to the page that says you have to subscribe to read more instead of the company ad.
So essentially the companies that pay to the ads can't put a link to their own websites if they have them on the free page, and Used Tire has the biggest on there. If I owned those companies I'd want clicks on those ads to connect to my website on the free page. I don't know what happens o the paid page.
Sophisticated websites provide tracking information through the use of cookies that will show how many unique users click on any given ad, vital information for an advertiser. This is how companies determine where best to spend their online advertising dollars.
As to whether I think those numbers represent anything significant, perhaps the fact that in order to write this post I clicked onto his site about 20 times should tell you something.
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#6 2009-07-19 16:49:51
The true test of success is how many people care about the rag enough to throw in 5 bucks a month.
How many paid subscribers do you have Ragman? That's a number we will never hear, will we?
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#7 2009-07-19 16:58:23
Check out the stats for this site, up 10%, I like this link (not because of the observer's, but because I own websites) and never knew about it before. Thanks.
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#8 2009-07-19 17:09:11
Mr. President Slager has reached out ot me. I'm touched. Goodness, should I retain counsel ??? Please forgive Mr. President. Its interesting you've never cared much for evidentury documentation when you write your articles / "stories" (443,498 % 30 days = 14,783 story hits per day). WOW, you are doing really well. So why was it again that you have to charge $$$ for your outstanding journalism ? Again, I am terribly sorry. Can you find it in your warm heart to forgive me ? Please, NO MORE THREATS ! Thanks
Subj: Be carefeul, Mr. Brady.
Date: 7/19/2009 3:24:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Warehamobserver@aol.com
To: bbrady@onewareham.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
You may have any opinion of me that you wish, Mr. Brady. But the numbers from our web site are tracked by the web server that hosts our site, not us. If you wish to make public statements under your own name accusing Observer Media of fraud, the information from our web server will most certainly be admissible as evidence. What evidence do you have to support your claim that the numbers are "imaginary?"
Robert Slager
President
Observer Media
3241 Rear, Cranberry Highway
Buzzards Bay, MA, 02532
Phone: (508) 759-0404
Fax: (508)759-4304
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#9 2009-07-19 17:26:32
Cara Winslow wrote:
Check out the stats for this site, up 10%, I like this link (not because of the observer's, but because I own websites) and never knew about it before. Thanks.
Here are the Alexa stats for this Wareham Observer. All the important ones are up 7 - 10 %. This slow but steady growth is what webmasters generally like. Leaps of readership can be like the stockmarket - here one day etc.
(Cara and BillW: I put the free Google Analytics on two of my websites and found it did everything the paid services did, and more.)
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#10 2009-07-19 17:37:08
OH NO! Not a threat from the President, Vice-President, Secretary General, Grand Poohbah and Honcho Head Cheese of Ragserver Multi-Mega Media!
Ragman, how many people signed up to PAY for your site since you began the paid subscription venture a month ago? My opinion, that's the only number that really matters.
If it is an impressive number, I wonder why you didn't put it in your "The Numbers are in Ad."
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#11 2009-07-19 17:47:01
On the email "threat":
Slager vs. Brady
I can see it now. Mr. Slager is going to pay for a lawyer and sue you for.... what is it exactly?
Like some of us who have websites, I am familiar with the data that comes from the site server, the host company of a website. It is useful to a point. But it can be misused too.
In order to track data in a way that is meaningful to advertisers you have to do what I said.
Hits that come from search engines that may access your site numerous times. I click on Slager's page many times a day but don't subscribe. I also may keep a window to his site open for hours at a time.
What Hamatron5000 said about how many paid subscriptions he has (and I'd add print sales) is most relevant along with what I said about the measurable success of the ads he puts online. If the advertisers discover they aren't getting value the paper will fold (no pun intended).
My Jeer:
In scrolling down the page checking the ads I came across a free Jeer from Slager's Cheers and Jeers section.
Doesn't he have someone to advise him that when he feels this strongly about someone it's best to ignore them.
He calls IHATELIZ "a complete idiot and a liar" and a "seriously moronic, delusional and hateful human being." He writes "and that goes double for your psycho stalker son IHATESLAGER."
Apparently he knows or thinks he knows who these two posters are.
Mr. Slager, some unsolicited advice: grow a thicker skin and even if some of these posters get to you, responses like this from the editor and publisher of a weekly paper are inappropriate.
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#12 2009-07-19 18:28:03
Dear Mr. President,
So now I'm a "juvienile" ? Please re read your email to me. The only question asked was that of any evidence. Also re read your "subject". Do you see any question mark, Mr. President. Wareham citizens have been reading your misrepresentations, exaggerations and insinuations for far too long. Like I said, NO MORE THREATS, please.
You have defamed pretty much any citizen or citizen's group that isn't on the same page with our illustrious leaders.
AND, for the record, what sort of "amicable" resolution would have made you "happy" ? money ? Obviously two immediate personal apologies was not adequate.
Please no more emails. You can answer here for yourself as this is where you got your "evidence" for your claim against me.
respectfully,
___________________________________________________________
Subj: (no subject)
Date: 7/19/2009 5:58:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Warehamobserver@aol.com
To: bbrady@onewareham.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Dear Mr. Brady,
Since you lacked the courage to answer my inquiry directly, opting instead for a juvenile response on a local web site, I will clarify something for you. I was not issuing a threat. I simply asked you to be careful writing defamatory comments about my business. I would have been more than happy to resolve this issue amicably. All you needed to do was retract your defamatory statement.
The fact is I can prove what our web site numbers are. Now I will answer your question directly. Yes, you should retain counsel. If you believe I'm bluffing, ask Mr. Whitehouse. I have allowed your defamation to continue far too long. You have attacked my honesty on numerous occasions without offer a shred of evidence. You will be required to provide such evidence this time. You have accused me of fraud. That will not be tolerated.
We will find out who the liar really is, Mr. Brady.
Robert Slager
President
Observer Media
3241 Rear, Cranberry Highway
Buzzards Bay, MA, 02532
Phone: (508) 759-0404
Fax: (508)759-4304
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#13 2009-07-19 19:02:56
I guess bobo would have to spend his whole $25 a month income from his pay site to sue you. Although the burden of proof would be on him to prove his numbers are correct. Oh yeah, then you need to prove the statement caused damages. Oh, and that they were not part of SLAPP. Oh, and ignore the fact he threatens to sue everyone.
You hurt my feelings... I'll sue you! Who has he successfully sued. The thing with bill will NEVER go forward I'm sure.
He's bluffing. In fact, he's harassing you. Isn't that what he claims everyone does to him?
That's sarcasm bobo
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#14 2009-07-19 19:16:25
I am wondering if Bobo understands what defamation of charactor is.
Referring to a well known family stating that one of them is a "hateblogger" can do damage to ones charactor.
Calling a citizens group a "white elitist" group can do damage to the charectors of those people.
Writing stories about the Library claiming that employees are being paid for not working can damage their charectors.
Need I go on?
So far Bobo has been lucky, no one as wanted to waste the time, effort and money necessary to pursue a defamation of charactor suit. But, that doesn't mean that someday someone is going to get pissed off enough to file suit. That's just my opinion Bobo, the one the first amendment protects me for expressing.
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#15 2009-07-19 19:32:24
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Subj: Comment
Date: 7/19/2009 6:38:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Warehamobserver@aol.com
To: bbrady@onewareham.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Dear Mr. Brady,
I am preparing a story on your statement regarding our web site statistics. Are there any comments you wish to make?
Robert Slager
President
Observer Media
3241 Rear, Cranberry Highway
Buzzards Bay, MA, 02532
Phone: (508) 759-0404
Fax: (508)759-4304
____________________________________________________________
Yes Mr. President,
I have one comment / recommendation. Within your story, offer an apology to the citizens of Wareham and CBW for misinforming the general public of any recall effort by the Citizens for a Better Wareham (CBW). Also do that Mr. President, in both the Standard Times and the Wareham Courier and I won't consider a counter claim. That would be an amicable resolution.
Otherwise, I guess we'll just have to let the judge decide.
respectfully submitted,
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#16 2009-07-19 20:11:06
Subj: Re: Comment
Date: 7/19/2009 7:54:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Warehamobserver
To: Carpenter1112
I have not written a word about this new recall effort, Mr. Brady. Do you wish to compound a lie with another lie?
Robert Slager
President
Observer Media
3241 Rear, Cranberry Highway
Buzzards Bay, MA, 02532
Phone: (508) 759-0404
Fax: (508)759-4304
_____________________________________________________________
NEW ? Who said anything about "new" ? I'm talking about over the last 12 months. Trust me. I've got your "documents" Mr. President. No lies here.
You're really searching now.
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#17 2009-07-19 20:22:31
Wow, he's interviewed himself in the third person (again) on this subject. Who does that?
... commonsense said while reacting to bobo's rants
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#18 2009-07-19 20:39:30
Hey, who the hell wrote that story?! Did Andrea come out of retirement?
Oh wait, Ragman (see above) apparently wrote Mr. Brady for a comment for a story he says HE is writing, and now a story with no author's byline appears on the rag site, featuring quotes from the Ragman.
Bobo, come on, it's late on a Sunday night. Stop threatening to sue people and stop interviewing yourself and go to bed. You need to be up bright and early tommorrow morning to cover your buddy's arraignment.
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#19 2009-07-19 20:49:41
I think most of his hits come from bloggers from this site. I strongly urge you all to stop justifying him by "hitting" his site. You all have much more going for you than to stoop to his level. He needs you all to survive. I say cut off his lifeline. Let the Tri-town support his media empire, not Wareham. He hasn't done Wareham any favors.
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#20 2009-07-19 20:55:59
If this report from Bondware, the host of Slager's online publication is still true, they are using the well known Webalizer software for site statistics..
This is from Wikipedia:
Criticism
Generated statistics do not differentiate between human visitors and robots. As a result all reported metrics are higher than those due to people alone.
Reported hits are too high for download managers with segmented downloads, each 206 "Partial Content" is reported as one hit
No query string analysis, dynamic generated websites can not be listed separately (e.g. PHP pages with arguments)
Since he has brought this up, it seems to me that he should publish the full statistical profile for, say, the past month.
Webalizer is a free download available here which seems similar to Google Analytics which a referenced before.
Note (again) that these statistical analyses still only give part of the picture of website usage, are always inflated, and should be used as only a portion of how you judge the popularity of a website, and of the value of its advertising space.
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#21 2009-07-19 21:02:50
bbrady:
I will call you in the morning :-)
urneighbor:
Thanks, definately will be putting that to good use!
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#22 2009-07-19 21:10:32
Isn't it a bit strange that a good portion of his articles deal with this website and the posters here? Basically, this site is a good source for news! Even in articles not pertaining to this website, he refers to this website. Isn't it about time he quits calling this the "fake observer"? After all, it seems to be the leading source for information and references! Good work Bill!
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#23 2009-07-19 21:14:45
NOW THE LIVE CHAT IS GOING ON AND 23 PEOPLE ARE ONLINE CHATTING ABOUT NONSENSE. ITS SUNDAY NIGHT HOW TO THE PRESIDENT OF OBSERVERMEDIA COME DOWN AND INTERVIEW SLAGER AGAIN? THIS GUY IS INSANE! 23 PEOPLE A FAR CRY FROM THE 17,192 VISITORS HE CLAIMS. HOW MANY SUBSCRIBERS DO YOU HAVE TO YOUR WEBSITE? HOW MANY BOBO? IT SHOULD BE EASY FOR YOU TO COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. IS THIS WHAT YOU DO ALL NIGHT TALK TO 23 PEOPLE AND SEND EMAILS BACK AND FORTH THREATENING WITH IMAGINARY LAWSUITS FROM OBSERVERMEDIA? YOU DO THIS INSTEAD OF GOING HOME TO YOUR WIFE AND KIDS? 37 MINUTES TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO SLEEP AT YOUR HOME WITH YOUR FAMILY? HOW MANY SUBSCRIBERS DO YOU HAVE, I KNOW YOU HAVE AT LEAST 5. YOUR A PATHETIC LOSER RAGBOY
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#24 2009-07-19 21:31:34
From what I gather from this site, he already wrote his "story" so this response to me just 24 minutes after he asked for my comment suggests he already had his story, as usual. Mr. President, you obviously had time to write your story. Why didn't you include my comments then ? Did you apologize ? Are you drafting an apology for the Standard Times and the Courier. That would make me happy.
That "evidence" you speak to will be most interesting. And for all of us here...when was there ever a recall effort ? Do you even know how a recall works ? Have you ever read the Charter ? Have you ever seen a recall affidavit ?
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Subj: (no subject)
Date: 7/19/2009 8:18:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Warehamobserver
To: Carpenter1112
Dear Mr. Brady.
I will be happy to print your comment after the Observer's Live Chat has ended. I have plenty of evidence the CBW was at least partially behind the first recall effort. If that's all you have, give it your best shot. I will enjoy this. Your lies have gone on far too long.
Robert Slager
President
Observer Media
3241 Rear, Cranberry Highway
Buzzards Bay, MA, 02532
Phone: (508) 759-0404
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#25 2009-07-19 21:36:59
bbrady wrote:
I have plenty of evidence the CBW was at least partially behind the first recall effort. If that's all you have, give it your best shot. I will enjoy this. Your lies have gone on far too long
"because members of the BOS told me so" -- Bobo
Then again, everyone not on board with the BOS is CBW to him. So any recall effort talk about MUST be CBW.
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#26 2009-07-19 21:40:05
TALK ABOUT WHO'S A PYSCHO! I THOUGHT HE DIDNT WRITE THE ARTICLE SOMEBODY INTERVIEWED HIM? HA HA HA , SO HILIARIOUS TO SEE A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON WRITING A NEWSPAPER. NOTICE HOW HE CALLS EVERYONE ELSE LIARS. THIS IS TO JUSTIFY HIS LIES. IT MAKES HIM FEEL GOOD. TAKE SOME MORE MEDS SLAGLIAR.
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#27 2009-07-19 21:41:38
Is it true that if bobo the hobo is the one to initiate the law suit, he is the one to incur all the court costs?
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#28 2009-07-19 21:42:36
BREAKING NEWS SLAGERS COUNTER AT 16 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON ADVERTISORS 16 PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP.
16 people currently online
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#29 2009-07-19 21:42:42
Why the hell is Mr President waiting to print your comment after Rag chat? Why isn't this nameless reporter that wrote the story taking your comments and printing them right now?! Ragman, stop interviewing yourself!
I've been doubled over laughing at the "Mr. President" thing all night. Bobo, you might have yet another new nickname.
And how did he become Mr President anyway? Did he run against the Cat Lady? Was it a tough election for the Ragserver presidency? How long did he have to caucus himself for his vote?
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#30 2009-07-19 21:44:52
IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONGLOMERATE OBSERVAR MEDIA SITING AT HIS HEADQUARERS OF OBE BSERVER MEDIA (I BET THE PLACE IS A DUMP FILLED WITH BAGEL CHEESE WRAPPPERS) rite now sitting IN HIS UNDERWEAR DISCUSSING THE MELTDOWN OF HIS EMPIRE. MS LILY THEY ARE PICKING ON ME , I AM THE BIGGEST LIAR EVER BUT I DID NOT THINK THEY WOULD CATCH UP WITH ME , MS LILY WHAT SHOULD I DO, AND SHE SAYS YOU CAN BORROW MY HAT THAT I CRAP IN FOR I HATE LIZ , WILL THAT CONSOLE YOU, OR I CAN SEND OVER SOME BAGELS , GEE THANKS MS LILY I SURE LIKE BAGELS , MS LILY MY DAD WAS A DRUNK AND I AM A FAT BASTARD WHO LIKES BAGELS ,, WELL GOOD NITE R O B E R T SWEET BRUCIE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU , THIS D B SAYS IF HE WINS MAYOR OF WAREHAM YOU WILL BE HIS CHIF OF STAFF, THANKYOU JANE OR I MEAN MS LILLY/
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#31 2009-07-19 21:45:16
Great, just great! The rest of the country gets the President of Change You Can Believe In and Wareham gets the President of Change, Can You Spare Some?!
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#32 2009-07-19 21:56:23
QUOTH MR PRESIDENT: "Our numbers are accurate. We have absolute proof of that."
Wow, he really is hanging onto that "WE" thing with both hands isn't he?
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#33 2009-07-19 21:58:09
It looks as if President BoBo the Hobo has been taking financial planning lessons from sweet brucie. If President BoBo the HoBo wastes all his money on lawyers, he will not have any meaningful revenue and therefore will not get caught owing $181,000.00.
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#34 2009-07-19 21:59:21
MS LILY , MS LILY , MS LI.LY MS LILY , PINK PANTHER I NEED YOUR HELP SINCE THEY FOUND OUT I WAS HOORAY I AM UPSET AND NOW THIS MY RATINGS ARE DOWN 60% ON MY WEB SITE AND I HATE TO SAY IT BILLS WEB SITE IS UP 10% THIS MONTH ALONE , WHAT SHOULD I DO, MS LILLY SAYS WELL ROBERT I GUESS HIS SITE IS THE REAL WAREHAM OBSERVER SITE AND YOURS IS THE FAKE SITE , AND I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF SUPPORTING YOUR SORRY ASS ON THESE WEB SITES , GO AND GET A REAL JOB BO BO , RAG BOY.
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#35 2009-07-19 22:00:17
QUOTH THE PREZ: "I have plenty of evidence the CBW was at least partially behind the first recall effort."
Umm, wow Ragman, some reporter you are. It's a verifiable fact that CBW was not created until AFTER last year's recall meeting.
Shouldn't Wareham's ace reporter have known that?
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#36 2009-07-19 22:17:39
BoBo The Hobo wrote:
Yes, you should retain counsel. If you believe I'm bluffing, ask Mr. Whitehouse.
I think you should seek immediate psychiatric help.
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#37 2009-07-19 22:28:09
billw wrote:
BoBo The Hobo wrote:
Yes, you should retain counsel. If you believe I'm bluffing, ask Mr. Whitehouse.
I think you should seek immediate psychiatric help.
Is that bobo the hobo or bbrady that should seek help?
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#38 2009-07-19 23:20:22
Forgive my lack of clarity.
I think Robert Slager, Bruce Sauvageau and each of their minions and their multiple personalities should seek immediate psychiatric help.
Wareham's last half dozen municipal meltdowns were both predictable and predicted, from Slager's chronic legals threats to George Coleman, Ana Paulina, the computer audit and on and on and on and on.
I'm tired. Someone else flesh out the list?
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#39 2009-07-19 23:23:38
Hamatron5000 wrote: .."Bobo, come on, it's late on a Sunday night. Stop threatening to sue people and stop interviewing yourself and go to bed. You need to be up bright and early tommorrow morning to cover your buddy's arraignment."
Loveit, LOL...HAHAHA.. Iwanna request an episode w/ Sweet Brucie, Bobo, and Boy George.."Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?" Dbag awards all around.
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#40 2009-07-20 06:42:07
WILL GEORGE COLEMAN SHOW UP TO COURT TODAY IN HIS GREEN FLOURESCENT CRIME WATCH SHIRT. WILL HE DRIVE THE CRIMEWATCHMOBILE TO THE COURT HOUSE?
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#41 2009-07-20 13:58:43
I refuse to pay for the rag, nor will I visit the website..i do grab a tritown so I can have my weekly chuckle..Slager is full of shit!!!..imagine concocting those numbers!!..get real Bobo: your paper sucks and you are a poor excuse for a journalist!!It still boggles my mind that people advertise in such a poor excuse for a newspaper...
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