IM ALL FOR IT AND WHERE DO I SIGN? ALSO LETS REMEMBER SLAGER'S "POLICE SOURCES" WHO OBVIOUSLY LIED TO SLAGER OR SLAGER LIED TO US ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY BEING FOUND WHEN THE DRIVES HADNT EVEN BEEN LOOKED AT ACCORDING TO THE TOWN ADMINSTRATOR. SLAGER SHOULD PRINT AN APOLOGY IMMEDIATELY TO THE POLICE DEPT. A SIMPLE PHONE CALL TO THE ITA TO CONFIRM HIS "POLICE SOURCE" IS ALL SLAGER HAD TO DO BUT HE CHOSE NOT TO.

Slage is a meaningless pawn in the entire equation. He publishes a Middle School newspaper (at best), and reminds me of a mushroom (they keep him in the dark and feed him sh*t). I don't believe there is a person in town that reads his nonsense as news. Most people find it entertaining warbling of a immature pimple faced teenager.

As far as I am concerned, without the BOS, he will have nothing to write about and leave town soon after they are comfy in their cells, or ignored throughout town.

I will have a conversation with a couple of people. We have put off this conversation for various reasons, but I think it's time to just do it. I just want to be clear, this is business, not personal. I have my own personal battles going on with the BOS and their pet TA. Those battles will be resolved separate from this. As a taxpayer and resident of Wareham, I believe it is my duty to eliminate the problem and make this town a better place to live. We should be able to get enough signatures to make this stick, and if not, the people of Wareham only have themselves to blame.

I also want to state that the BOS and TA really do believe no one has the ability to take them down. This irks me even more. I cannot believe this group can even comprehend that there are intelligent people who can make them go away. This plays right into the hands of the good people of Wareham.

Maplesprings--clearly it is K and P who are advising these jokers. And K and P are the boot lickers of municipal law firms (in my opinion). That is well known. Since a K and P lawyer accompanied the computer geeks, they will have ok'd the process. That means that now they need to keep telling their clients that they won't be taken down.  Can we prove them wrong?

Thanks for your help with this. I think I know why you have been putting this conversation off, but you are right---it's time to just do it.

I think the letter to K and P was just a warning---like if you don't play nice, we will dump you as our clients.  I was told that the lawyer during the seizure of hard drives was a K and P person.

Did they accept the minutes of the previous meeting? They would be in the public domain then, sometimes online. But if you could remember when they did this in the past, you could surely check out the previous minutes. I know it has happened before--pre open meeting exec. session--but don't have dates.  I hadn't realized before that it was illegal.

Back to considering the options.....

This just an idea, but I would love the feedback.

What if we draft a petition stating we (the registered voters and taxpayers of Wareham) will no long accept the actions of the current BOS. We could go into detail of what we disagree with and ask for them to either support the will of the voters or resign. We take this petition around Wareham (multiple people going door to door) and get signatures and addresses. Let's set a limit of 10 days (two weekends for us working people) to walk around our neighborhoods. At the end of the 10 days, we see how many signatures we have. if it is significant and enough to support a possible recall, we elect a spokesperson to go the the BOS meeting and present the petition during citizen participation. We should be able to determine the response and it will be public, so there is no speculation. If we are met with arrogance and anger, then we know we can proceed with a recall.

This is all based on the number of supporters that sign the petition, and the reaction of the BOS. I think we will be able to obtain the necessary signatures and then it is easier to approach the BOS from a position of strength.

It's better to be prepared than to assume and end up with egg on our face.

Thoughts?

If there are funds missing it can not be covered up.  It would need to be reported to the Attorney General or the Ethics Commission or Public Charities.  Because this BOS and Slager have a history of inferring or outright stating the ridiculous, I  believe it not to be true.  The BOS & Slager would love nothing better than to run full speed to the authorities if they thought there was money missing. 

MapleSprings, there was a petition that went around with responsible persons appearing before the BOS. Jane said because the individuals didn't talk to her first, she would not pay attention to the petition.   Bruce just tossed the petition aside saying that people told him they were pressured into signing it.  He also said that most of the signatures came from people in bars..... they've got a story for everything.

Mixie,
This time, if we have enough signatures, we can go straight to the procedures for recall. I am hoping for over 3000 signatures and addresses of VOTERS. If we have that, they better stand up and listen! If they do not, then we have enough to begin the recall.

If we don't have the signatures, then we just drop it. It's as simple at that. It really comes down to people wanting change. If the majority says yes, we have the green light to go ahead.

They can say what they like or where the signatures were collected, but in the end, they will either pay attention or be recalled.

MRM...I understand the audit is just a another piece of the puzzle regarding the recall effort, but it will be the one that will be the most recent on people's minds when the results of the audit are released and if it does uncover wrong doing before the recall process is complete, they will be hailed as heros and will sit on that board for as long as they decide they want to, regardless of any future wrongs you may or may not think they are guilting of committing...

Hiya Mixie...been wondering where you've been lately...I am not questioning your knowledge of the law by any means, just making sure you are posative that the info can't be squashed if the library lawsuit is settled...you're sure?

commonsense wrote:

DA's Office, Attorney General, FBI, State Police...

Hate to tell you, but if they do find something that one of those agencies would be responsible for investigating... the evidence would be useless, because all criminal investigations for such matters would require a search warrant signed by a judge or magistrate.

Would that still hold true if the information just happened to be discovered during a run of the mill,  town wide computer search that had no particular town department targeted?  Ya know, kind of like the way it seems like it happened?    If that wouldn't be enough to fly legally, couldn't they just say they were looking for bloggers and just happened to come across the really good stuff completely by accident? Hey, didn't someone at the library say the selectmen's names were mentioned when asked what they were looking for? That's in print somewhere...one of Urbon's articles?   Boy, if that's true and it was a premeditated move on the part of the BOS, that will go down as one of the smartest punks ever pulled off...

And then again, it could have all been for nothing...I'm still keeping an open mind until the results are in....

Zoo,
If it is going to be an action of futility, then how do we keep them from destroying the town? I don't want to be Don Quixote, but I certainly don't want to stand by and watch from the sidelines. Any suggestion on how to proceed or what we should do as responsible voters need to be discussed. I know there is a certainly element of caution.

I keep reading about retribution and fear of retaliation. Why does the BOS scare people? Are they that powerful? Seriously, they are voted into office, and unless I missed a memo, they work for US, the taxpayers of Wareham. It is our obligation to keep them focused on what we want, not what they want.

Maybe I am just living in Nirvana, but we control the situation, not them.

Molly,
Isn't it time we put a stop to the political bully tactics? I guess the simple thought is that up until recently, most people just watched in horror. Now the detractors of the BOS is growing, so the real question is, can we take on the bullies? It probably as simple as how many people want to see change? If the number is sufficient, then who cares what they pull out of their hat?

It's a numbers game. Do we have more than they have? If we do, then let's prove it. If not, then we don't have a chance.

I don't mind taking the arrogance and bully tactics if we come out ahead in the end. If I have learned anything, it's important to have a majority. that is the key.

I guess that ends that. If we don't have enough people interested in getting it right, then it's a waste of time. We need a majority, and from what you are saying, it just isn't there.

ihateliz:
Who?

There is so much overwelming information speculation and opninion on this site and the other sites.  I am trying to get a grasp on what is actual and what is fiction.   Some I know I must let go as mere venting.   But still then there is so much knowledge here and there.  I am paying attention.

There are so many people that read this blog they may not be members but they read it and tell their friends. Out of all these people someone must know someone who is capable and has the time to become a selectman. There are a lot of smart people out there. I don't know a lot about Winslow but wouldn't she run again. Most of my friends and retired and are only here six months out of the year. There must be some younger, smart, caring people who would like to run for selectman.

Marny:
According to Ms. Winslow's husband who attended a cookout I was at this weekend she has no intentions of another run at this point, however, he made it clear that they have not had much conversation about the long term future. He said that she is deeply touched by the e-mails and calls she is receiving and she is amazed by the support she received during the campaign.

While she was not at the cookout I would imagine that her husband has an idea of where her head is at. He did say that she has expressed this to a number of people and hopes we know she has made this decision for personal reasons and no other reason. I think he meant that she hasn't been scared away by all Bobo's claims of her being a secret CBW agent.

Her husband was very nice and I could tell that he would fully support whatever she decided to do.

On another note my friend mentioned that Ms. Winslow did apply recently to the Personnel Board but has received no response. Stunning. I would guess that the chances of the Fin Comm Chair, BOS Chair and Town Moderator appointing her are slim to none. I hope she isn't disappointed.