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reply  to independant voice i know your right but these 2 people have caused so much pain so much hurt to people in town and were allowed to get this way because of spine less people who would not stepup to the plate and alowed them to get this way and allowed good people to get trashed  and elect a board of selectman who have ruined this town and when their goneit will take years to get out from the problems they have caused look at all the people who lifes have been ruined  their have been over 10 people who hve been fired close to retiremeant this papper reported these lies and kept them in power i  will try to raise the discorse in the future  by the way she has cruumey teeth plese dont critize someone s action untill you have walked in the shoes of the comminity where it has left people cryiing ,sleepless nites and some driven to their graves like joe murphey

independant voice i think we have had this conversation before.  people are not going  to be turned off by a little humor,  the people targeted in things such as this have besmerched reputations at will/  a little humor helps people cope.     although  i have a great reverence for this site people dont come here for Pseudo intellectual discussions on whether bruce is using ego-ethics, virtue-ethics or if he has totally discarded all judeo-christion beliefs. 

just laugh it's funny

not mine ..... ind voice does it have to be all or nothing?  sorry if your offended but the site generates thousands of hits it is our only media outlet to refute slager and the bos's lies. until the site manager tells me to do something different i guess i will continue the way i have.

i would still say and urge you to contribut and that you have the ability to voice your opinion in your way here. 
trust me nothing would make me happier than to have more decorum reverance and respect for one another in this world but i would argue that they have thrown all that out the window and are not worthy.  that is just my opinion

I'm not offended in at all....just questioning the viciousness of the attacks.  I've followed Bob Slager and his tired act where he hides behind a blanket of so-callled journalistic integrity while he is actually trying to draw attention to himself and trying to put himself into the middle of every major controversy in town.  I don't question your dislike of him, his paper or his style....as he and is paper are shameful, "amateurish", decieving and biased.

My only point, which I now understand to be incorrect, was that if the goal of this site was to call him out and to provide an alternative to that style or the other side of Wareham politics, that the comments would be less personal....that's all.  Now that I understand that was not necessarily the case, my point is really moot.

I may not care for the personal attacks but I can read in between those and find real and often unreported information that you will never find in his paper.  THAT is is my real problem with Slager....he claims to report all the facts but rarely does.  He CLAIMS to be this journalist that is driven by journalistic ethics but is really using his paper as sound board for those in his corner.  He doesn't report news....he reports how the "Observer Learned" of this and how this person or that person hates him or the Observer, etc, etc.   You can't get through a paragraph without learning how he or his paper is involved.  THAT is not news reporting.

I know how he operates.  I posted on the ST website I think it was a few months ago.  He responded by posting that he knew who I was because an inside source told him...that I was an employee of the courier or something like that.  When I responded telling him how wrong he was and to present his evidence, he claimed it was a joke.

You reminded me of something else that he does with his "jeers" and "cheers" section.....  He'll throw Bruce into the "Jeers" every so often as an attempt to show you how fair and balanced he is.  Likewise, he'll put someone he despises, like the police, into the "Cheers" section.  Such a joke.

Right...and like I've said...my biggest issue with his style is how he injects himself into most major stories.  It can't be a story just about the struggles between the police and the BOS in a factual news story.  Rather, the story must include some random note about how the police won't return his calls or something about the Joyce lawsuit agains the Observer.  It can't be a piece about the fact that John Wylde from the Gatemen has cancer but has to be a piece about how HE hasn't always agreed with John Wylde and how HE loves the Gatemen.  It can't be a story about Bruce Savegeau's antics at certain meetings, it has to include how HE is accused of being close to Bruce.   There are countless other examples of this style.

He has every right to cover the news and I suppose he also has the right to inject himself and the Observer into those stories.  However, it would come across much more professionally if he simply reported the news fairly, accurately and factually and then if he decided to editorialize on any subject, do that separately.

I've noticed that he more often than not now puts his "In this Corner" tagline at the top of certain stories now probably to excuse the forthcoming one-sided presentation of whatever he is writing.  This is another example of how he is using his own publication to cover up his bias.

I was originally encouraged when this paper was started.  The Courier is the Courier...not a lot of really local reporting and over time it has become more of a regional news source that happens to cover Wareham.  THAT doesn't work for a weekly publication and I think turned people off....like me.  The Observer, while not as large or not exactly pleasing from a design standpoint, presented an alternative and appeared to provide citizens with hard news option.  What it has become is very disapointing and an obvious lightning rod in town.