Dave, probably no surprise, but I'll have to disagree with you when it comes to Mike, Ellen, and Cronie.

First of all, Cronie is pathetic and should just quit now.  What were his big lines of the evening?  He's "learned his lessons?"  He realizes now that people "want someone who is honest"  and "want someone who will do the work."

Cronie, come on, if you didn't know that your first time around, then don't waste our time trying to come back.  You had three years as a selectman and you really stunk up the joint.  You were thrown out.  Just get out of the race because you're gumming up the works.  The tin hats threw you overboard as they do with anyone who is no longer useful to them and the people on the good side will never forget your "dirty rat" speech.

Second, thank goodness this was televised because I had to sit at home and watch it with a barf bag.  Watching Mike and Ellen preach civility and how we all need to "come together" was nauseating.

No, civility and coming together aren't on their own concepts that are nauseating.  However, these two are the top two supporters of Bobo the Clown and his rag.  You can't preach civility out of the left side of your mouth and then run to your buddy's site to bash your opponents with the right side of your mouth.

Hell, at least Cronie apologized for making inappropriate or "personal remarks" about people and said he wouldn't do it again if elected.  It would have been a start if Mike and Ellen had apologized for supporting a rag that has ripped to shreds the reputations of many decent people in town but they didn't even do that.

Look at some of the insults that Mike has hurled in the comments he's made on the rag website - will he ever offer any apology for those? 

But don't get me wrong - there's no apology big enough that can make up for what the Hypocrite Elite has done, but I'm just saying, I have no idea how they support the rag and can still stand up and pretend they care about civility with a straight face.

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Schinder ,ellen And Cronan You All Three Just Scare Me.

I also thought that Joe Ashley is probably the most well-spoken 19 year old I've ever seen and his speech tonight went a long way toward alleviating doubts about whether a 19 year old can preside over town meeting as deputy moderator.

Curly's washed up.  Who holds a job for 10 years, loses it, and then runs for the job's assistant position?

You really have to love Frank. He is so honest and transparent. I never have to guess what he is thinking. I think the selectman meetings will not be dull with him on the board. I think he will be good for Wareham.

Jennifer, has a very intelligent and business like approach to Wareham's problems. I think we have been missing this on the board. I think she will be a good addition.

I don't think anyone can say Donna doesn't care. She would make a good selectman. The problem is there aren't three seats open. Next time Donna I promise.

I think the other three are a danger to the town. They are part of a group of people who have put this town in such a mess.

Joe Ashley is such a nice man. He gives me hope in the town's future.
I think John D is one nasty piece of work.

The thing that worries me is just how honest is this election going to be. I believe votes can be manufactured where they don't exist. I have become very suspicious of a group of people in town who believe --it is only illegal if someone makes it an issue.

Those of you who pray, please join me in a quiet prayer for Wareham.

the last time John and Jane jumped up that fast: their table number was called to go to the buffet at one of the many afterfunerals they attend!!..clasic case of a very guilty conscience..

I think the momentum is with the candidates not endorsed by the tinhats..after being told who Slager is endorsing, a first-timer at candidates night responded, "the're off my list"!!

Just Looked Up Slagers Comments An D He Gives Ellen The Win And Frank A C- , Slager Your Full Of Crap As Usual.

Mike and Ellen preach civility but they don't practice what they preach.  Unless they stop embracing the hateful rag and stop using the rag site to bash opponents, their claims of desiring civility will ring hollow.

I can point to several insulting comments that Mike has made about Frank using his mikef screenname on Bobo's site...but I can't point to one negative comment that Frank has made about Mike, because he hasn't made any. 

So, which candidate is more civil?

GuyIncognito wrote:

I heard about that, that Jane and John both sprang to their feet and started shouting down Bob Brady while he was trying to ask a question.

Shouldn't a candidate for deputy moderator like John Boy know enough to not interfere and let the moderator of candidates night handle the debate?

As I've witnessed J & J's reign over TOO many years now,  it's DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO !  Their true colors shown through like a beacon last night and it's time to show them and anyone in their camp the door.  Thanks but no thanks.  Neither of them have served this town well.  They're biased, critical and certainly not accountable.

If Begley and Schneider had any smarts about them they'd unalign themselves with the Donahues.  Otherwise they don't stand a chance.  I could never support them because of their support for Mr. Slager.  If they truly want to MWF, they need to sever their tie to him too. He and they will be their demise.

I know I don't blog much these days, but I have to jump in here.

Frank showed me a great deal last night. Jennifer was very relaxed and I finally have an idea of where she stands. Donna, like Frank, will not play word games. If you don't where they stand, you aren't listening.

I can't get beyond the taped executive session. Cronan can say whatever he wants, his history speaks volumes.

Not much to say about Ellen and Mike. They do well talking from notes, but aren't very good on their feet.

My kudos of the night go to Joseph Ashley. This young man spoke well, spoke with authority, and there is no doubt he will make an excellent Deputy Moderator.

When John Donahue got up to chastise Bob Brady, that sealed it for me. Moderator = neutral...not going to happen with Donahue.

The civility goes out the window as soon as someone poses a hard question to the MWF crew. They were a pack of wolves. I think we all know where the hate and rhetoric is coming from.

My votes are sealed and ready.

I stated in my letter to the editor that people should pay attention to the assessment of the current state of Wareham. Let's be honest, Marilyn Donahue said it best when she explained, "we are broke and it isn't getting better". So, to be blunt, please note the answers of the candidates when it comes to the finances of the town. I think you know who is paying attention and who isn't.

Thank you Marilyn for the excellent question!

GuyIncognito wrote:

Does anyone know if Ellen blogs on the rag site and if so, what's her handle?

I always thought she was 4dognite (in fact I once said I'd "eat my hat" if it wasn't). I've backed off some on that belief though. It still might be..hard to confirm, it's like a closely guarded "state secret" (open & honest, anyone?)..she's still my "leading candidate" for being "4dognite" (if not in the selectmen's race)..because if it's not her..it's "someone"..I don't know..like Brenda..Jane?? I can't say, for sure. My original "conviction" that it was Ellen, was based on.."it sure sounds like Ellen"..things she said..like about MWF..answering questions about MWF, and such. Also, about a year ago, I was going back and forth with Ellen by email (one Sunday night, "HatChat" night)..and I wrote something to her about not wanting my comments to be discussed on that night's "HatChat"..I don't think she responded back to me about my concerns (in a return email)...but, sure enough..when I later read that night's "HatChat"..there it was..a comment (not a nice one) about me..which seemed directly related to the "exchange" we'd had in our emails.. I don't know where that leaves the discussion..but it's "what I know".

It seems to me, from what I have read and heard from many of you, there are many choices, but only two NOT to vote for:

Baglady and Mikey.

Everybody else, good luck!

When it comes to Mike and Ellen the only civility I have seen from them is if you agree with their opinions.  Their determined allegiance to Slager not only deters me but I'm sure many others. (God help us, can you imagine him (Slager) as selectman?  Oh that's right, he loves Wareham, but doesn't want to live here)

Joseph Ashley is a breathe of fresh air!  He is the future of Wareham!  But quite honestly, as long as the kid had a pulse he would be better than John Donahue!

I'm still stuck between Donna Bronk and Jennifer Petersen.  I just don't want another wishy washy selectman elected.  I want them to have their own convictions, but still willing to listen to the voters and remember they represent us!

i am voting for defelice ,ashely  and peterson and leaving bronk on the finance commitee,dont split your vote and let one of them get in with bronk on the finance commitee we will have the best of 2 worlds , visit peterson sun at her spagetti supper .   if bronk  runs again i will vote for her next time.

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Notice Curly isnt putting signs up??..if/when he loses he'll fluff it off as not caring that much about such an unimportant postion..That smug smile on his face during OPL and the fact he was reading Ashleys notes prove what a clown he is..