LYNNE BURROUGHS AKA WAREHAMPROPHETES JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE TOILET AND ASKED FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT. SHE WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED JESUS TO TAKE CARE OF SOME PEOPLE IN TOWN. NUTCASE GALORE! SHE LOST HER BID FOR SCHOOL COMMITTEE.

STEVE HOLMES IS ON.

No audio...wonder why?
Body language speaks volumes, however.

I don't know what's up with the audio, but the link to WCTV isn't working either.
Check in tomorrow and hopefully I'll get this one turned around fast. Mostly blaming the DA(Cronie), and Brenda and Brucey blabbering away..Cruz..I'm not real sure. I think I could listen 25 times and still not be sure...and it was about two sentences, maybe!! Too bad the full cast of character's isn't available. Who's gonna be absent next week? We should start a pool.

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I had an opportunity to interview a certain shellfish officer, retired, for the Town of Wareham.
You might find it interesting. It shows the corruption that has taken place for decades in Wareham.
Me: So, shellfish officer that wants to remain anonymous, what is up?
SFO(Shell fish officer): I don't know if I really want to talk with you. I heard from a friend of mine that you can be trusted, but I'm scared."
Me: Scared of what?
SFO: Of the former cops and Selectmen, and School Board members, and everyone on the Town that held public office from 1956 to 2006, when I was the Shell fish Officer.
Me: You realize you just outed yourself. That can't be easy, I know, I wish I could.
SFO: I grew oysters so big it was larger than your head, and I gave them away to the members of the Board of Selectman, the Library Trustees, the School Board members and hundreds of other influential people in Town.
I did it with Town owned shellfish, and I am ashamed.
I sold oysters, clams and scallops for $1.00 per pound, and gave the people a receipt for $5.00 so they could write it off on their income taxes. I am so ashamed.
Me: You should be proud of yourself . But you should turn in all those clam and oyster moochers that took advantage of you.
SFO: I am praying on it. I'll let you know. In fact, because you have shown yourself to be so trustworthy and honest, I will tell you everything I know or ever will know. I wrote all of the names on a huge clam shell that I retrieved in 3000 feet of water off of the Cape, but I had it in a safety deposit box at the Wareham National Bank.
Some thieves drilled through the wall, broke into the safety deposit box area, and stole my clam shell!
Nothing else...there were millions in diamonds and other items like cash, bonds,gold coins, silver coins, and anything else you can think of that is of value.
Me: Do you know who broke into the safety deposit box and stole your clam?
SFO: I do...but I am afraid to say. I fear for my life, the life of my children, my wife, my mother-in-law, my cousins and everyone I know.
Me: Thank you, anonymous Shellfish Officer.
And so it goes: corruption, conspiracy, gluttony, all of it disgusting to me.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Dan O'Connell out.
I am HAMATRON5000.

Steve pressed the issue and the results were? You guessed it, NOTHING. I guess that means the Selectmen aren't all that concerned over the alleged pilfering of $3million dollars?

Larry, can you expand on the Lynne/Steve stuff?  I didn't get a chance to catch it tonight.

Thanks!

Nota...you were NEVER suspected!

Dan: Best darn parody I ever read  !!  When I recover from rolling around on the floor,I'll write some more.

I'm sure that you possess the humility to recognize that your outrageous tale, great as it is, will  probably come in second to the one being submitted by the Halifax Whacko about the WFL.  I may be be able to save you with a technicality...you submitted your entry  as a parody: he submitted his entry  as the truth....I think we can get him thrown out of the contest....stay tuned.

Cas,
The Lynne person thanked the entire board for their efforts in this troubled times and then requested a forensic audit of the library. (don't get me started about that).

Steve made a plea to the board to do something to put this behind us. Bruce was all for doing something, Cruz mumbled something, Cronan didn't say much, and Brenda was all for doing something. They wanted to wait until Jane returns before saying anything else. Soooo, in short, they aren't doing anything at this point. Yes, I know you are surprised!

IMO, this is not a "forensic audit" situation, it is a federal level investigation by the IRS. Of course, there is no tangible proof and the only allegations come from a nut job. At this point, the IRS would laugh about this unless someone comes up with something more than a mysterious informant and the word of Bobo the Fabricator.

whew....

Yeah, Sweet Brucey and the witch that talks to Jesus are going to be completely unbiased about Mrs. Pillsbury.

The only thing they accomplished tonight is getting rid of that damn toilet.

I agree Cas, this is a major deal. IF there is no evidence besides the word of Bobo the fabricator, nothing will be done. If he can produce ANY tangible evidence, then let the IRS audit begin! Of course, nothing but words will be available and that isn't enough. I do so hope Bobo gets to stand in court and say, "your honor, you have my word as twice the man" .....I think that covers it.

Let's see...I'm a Selectman, and you come before me and the Board and you tell me about a scandal that involves over one million dollars and that over 100 people in public office, past and possibly present, and former Library Trustees, and cops, and lions and tigers and bears, oh my...and you don't say, "Get on this right away, my butt monkey!!! Investigate this immediately and notify the proper authorities IMMEDIATELY!!"
No, I say..."Let's wait until next week when our member who is not feeling good comes back, and then we can discuss it."

HUH?

ANYBODY HOME??

Seriously, 123 people says Bobo...so what hell are they doing to catch these rapscallions?  Bobo just gives them a stern lecture in the rag and that's it?  Why doesn't he give his list to the IRS and demand that the IRS investigate the finances of all these people then?

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IHATESLAGER wrote:

LYNNE BURROUGHS AKA WAREHAMPROPHETES JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE TOILET AND ASKED FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT. SHE WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED JESUS TO TAKE CARE OF SOME PEOPLE IN TOWN. NUTCASE GALORE! SHE LOST HER BID FOR SCHOOL COMMITTEE.

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lynne bouroughs asked for a forensic audit, A CHRISTIAN SONG WRITER WHO SAID GOD  WOULD KILL WREHAM OFFICE HOLDERS WHO DID NOT AGREE WITH HER , ANOTHER NUT IN SLAGERS  PHYSCO BRIGADE.

"Rapscallions"  huh, now that is a word that you don't hear very often (ever?) But it is a nice word that conveys a gentle criticism, like the last times that I heard it go back, let's see, over 70 years, when my grandmother seemed to use it far too frequently for my taste. Today the message is more like get your tail in here, they were gentler times.

But to the matter at hand.  Let me start by complimenting Bruce and his "hold it pardner" when John Sanguinet started to slide over the issue of how to deal with the expected deficit in 2011.  And please hold the expected barrage that Bruce caused all the problems.

Let me bore you with a bit of what the FinCom is up to that dovetails with the issues, not only in 2011 but looking-or trying-at the out years beyond 2011.

We are in the process of preparing a "unified" plan that will incorporate as much of what we "need" as well as what we "want."  The need part-at least putting numbers on paper-is fairly easy; one has to fund pensions, health care and things of that sort.  The things that we might "want" are tougher, because they are tougher-if we want them, you pay for them now.  Do we need life guards, some would say absolutely, and others would say, come back when we have the money.  Should we build a new police station, some who said "no" to lifeguards, might say "yes" to that idea.  Building on additions to some grammar schools, is that at "yes" or a "no?"  There are a multitude of issues, and saying no, no, no is not going to solve them, all we will get are more receipts for roof repairs, think Town Hall, think Tremont Nail, think EMS building.

"Legal expense" come up in many posts, so we are all aware of it, the question is what to do.  I don't know if we have an answer, but let me share some thoughts.  The FinCom talked to nine other towns in the last several months and the message that came back was consistent; legal expenses were generally much lower then Wareham even adjusted for population differences. And-this is important-expenses tended to be relatively flat year-to-year, unlike ours that seem to have no upward boundries.

One town that we talked to, Kingston, has about half of our population, and up to a year ago, they had K & P who did good, but to their mind, expensive work for the town.  So, the town went out on bid and hired a law firm at about one-half the price (around $80,000 versus the last year with K&P at north of $150,000).  Interestingly, though they did not win, K&P did put in a bid.  I guess if you are selling water in the desert and it starts to rain, you might consider a different business model

But what is even more interesting to me, is part of the response from Nancy Howlett (who lived, she says,for 35 years here in Wareham):

"We issued an RFP last year and now use Blatman Bobrowski and Mead at a $6,000 per month retainer.  The service is excellent and very responsive.  Included in the monthly retainer are office hours once a month in which our lead Counsel spends a few hours at the Town House seeing department heads and officials who need legal advice on Town matters"

Put aside the money for a moment, and focus on getting counsel in town to talk to people on  a regular, routine basis, hopefully before a problem becomes a disaster.  Maybe if we had some advice beforehand, we would not get sued as much as we seem to.  I might add that litigation expense is also included in their retainer, so the law firm has every reason to try and avoid going to court.

I told one of the Selectmen, that the new TA must above all have vision, the technical side can be taken care of fairly easily, two and two is four, four and four is eight, and twenty minus eight is.........  The current methodology in this town is we scramble from this year to the next and then a year removed, get our running shoes on again, our own version of Ground Hog Day.  And that way of doing business-if such it is-has got to stop.

The observation, complaint if you will, is that we are saddled with problems that should have been taken care of 15 years ago (pensions do come to mind), but do we want to have people-perhaps some of us- say the same thing about us fifteen years in the future?  And why wasn't it taken care of 15 years ago, for the same reason that we will have the problem in 2025?  No one wanted to pay taxes then even though they understood the consequences of not doing so.

And just to pensions for a moment. We currently contribute about $2.5 million a year to town pensions (not teachers) and it is possible that over the next ten years, that expense might double.  Why, because Plymouth County insists that they can earn at least 8 1/4% going forward, that 2008 was but a blip.  Reduce that increment to people, and you are talking about 3 teachers a year either not hired or laid off.  Or police.

The solution, ah there is the rub.  Benefits are a heavy burden, so we should be thinking of how do we deal with them going forward.  One thing that would require action at the State level would be to eliminate defined benefits for new hires.  Oregon has done this, over vigorous labor objections. I have suggested and will continue to do so, that we consider "sharing" certain functions with other towns-and the issue of a library director would be a good place to start.  And can we share little used equipment? Yes, if we share we give up some autonomy but what is the alternative, to continue to be "target intensive?"  The ground is coming up very quickly.

Believe me when I say this, this time truly is different. I can speak from long experience, the scale has been tipped to far in one direction and has to be brought back into balance

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I just want to make sure everyone is clear on this. The computer audit had NOTHING to do with the latest fiasco. So, I think we should continue to pressure the Selectmen to contact the IRS or Department of Revenue. Bruce said people should be accountable, so should the Selectmen.

If there was any truth to this story, other newspapers, real newspapers, would have picked it up and gone after it big time.
Obviously, a legitimate newspaper will not follow up stories broken and written by a troll.

IHATESLAGER wrote:

THATS ALL YOU CAN MUSTER UP TONIGHT SLAGER? LYNNE BURROUGHS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? ALL YOU CAN DO IS MUSTER WAREHAMPROPHETES?

Is Lynne Burroughs the woman who stood up at town meeeting a few years ago complaining that the school department would not provide special services for her child's behavior problems?

We're kidding ourselves if we think the BOS goal is a search for the "truth".... Bobo has set it up so skillfully that there can never be a clear resolution; there will only be suspicion and doubt. His mission is to search and destroy reputations.   Slager...aided and abetted by our elected officials, has "carved in stone " suspicions and doubts that will persist long after the youngest of us is gone.

I have a hard time dealing with the apparent fact that what he has done seems to be beyond the reach of our legal system.

Who would be willing to spend their own hard earned dollars to prove ragboy is wrong yet again?

Really folks, it's easy to say sue the guy, but we all know he's got nothing, nada, no pot to--well you get it. So what do you get out of the lawsuit? Nothing, nada, and so forth and so on. A big waste of time and money.

If there is going to be an investigation, let that happen and then, when the lies are revealed, the private folks who were libeled and defamed can decide what to do.

NOW LETS SEE PEZZOLI CANT MAKE IT LAST NIGHT BECAUSE SHE WAS "SICK" BUT WAS SOMEHOW ABLE TO GET HERSELF TO THE VETERANS DAY PARADE THIS MORNING? HOW DOES SOMEONE LIE ABOUT THEIR INVOLVEMENT WITH BUILDING THE LIBRARY BUT DOESNT HAVE THE COURAGE TO GO ON CAMERA AND HAVE A LETTER READ INSTEAD?

BOBO CLAIMS THAT THE SELECTMAN BLAST THE D/A AND PLAN ON INVESTIGATING THE LIBRARY THEMSELVES? WHEN THE HELL DID THEY SAY THAT? I WATCHED THE MTG AND BRUCE SAID THAT THEY WOULD WAIT FOR THE FULL BOARD TO BE PRESENT TO TAKE A VOTE. BRUCE SAID THE VOTE NOW WOULD BE 2 TO 2 WHICH I THOUGHT WAS ODD SINCE HOW WOULD THEY HAVE COME UP WITH THAT SINCE THEY HAVE NOT YET SINCE THE "STORY" WAS PUT OUT.

Selectmen slam District Attorney, plan to investigate library corruption allegations themselves


    In the wake of money laundering and embezzlement allegations against former library director/selectman Mary Jane Pillsbury by two former members of the library board of trustees, Bruce Sauvageau, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, openly challenged the Plymouth Country District Attorney to return possible computer evidence of these crimes that was confiscated by the DA’s office in July.



PLAN ON INVESTGATING THEMSELVES? DID A SECRET VOTE TAKE PLACE SOMEWHERE?