What a bunch of pricks!

I'm sure both are non-binding, but they're going to screw with your head anyway.

THE PEOPLE SPOKE AND THATS THE END OF IT. WHAT WILL  THIS COST THE TOWN? WE VOTED TO INCREASE THE CLERKS BUDGET APPROX 25,000 MORE FOR TED KENNEDY'S SEAT. AS SLAGER WOULD SAY SHOW ME PROOF THAT THERE WAS A BACKDOOR DEAL WITH BAYPOINT. TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAID LETS WAIT TILL APRIL AND NOT HAVE A RECALL. I CONSTANTLY SAID WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE THESE POWER HUNGRY PEOPLE IN OFFICE THAT LONG. THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED. RECALL NOW

These are tuff financial times for everyone but a recall needs to start now, this effort will cost us less and probably save our town money compaired to the way those "ASSHOLES" blow our tax dollars.  It is now time to "Disolve" this board of selectmen.  Anyone can take five minutes out of their schedule to vote, and we all took time out to attend town meeting and to voice our opinion and vote for what we feel is right for the town.  They are all sulking about the majority of the voting body not siding with them and now they are saying F%&* You to everyone.

PShooter wrote:

Frivolous Bullshit. Who "made a deal"? What Group? Bunch o' shit...

Desperate acts from desperate people..

See why I chose my original screen name?

PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

you did the PRESIDENT of TBW.. duh hahaha

Dick Wheeler wrote:

What they have done with this latest ploy is provide us with the  high powered engine that will propel the recall movement that will drive them out of office.

There's a relevant cartoon in this week's New Yorker Magazine: A cheeky five year old boy  is standing in front of his exasperated parents, shaking his fists as he mouths: "How am I supposed to think about consequences before they happen?"

The Wareham BOS in a nutshell...

dick, they the BOS dont get it the residents spoke and now to pull this to circumvent our vote is only gonna bring on more to the tide of change..

"According to Sauvageau, plans to form an evaluation committee for the five proposals previously received for Westfield will continue despite the events at Town Meeting. "

I know I was totally on the fence about Bay Pointe up until I voted, I listened carefully to what was said and tried to make the best decision. I admit, that was a tough one for me! But, knowing it will come back to TM as a plan gave me some security. Westfield did not have to come back to TM unless they wanted to use CPA funds, that made me nervous. I personally would like to see the BOS put together a committee to study housing issues for seniors, families and those that are disabled. There are children in our midst who live in disgraceful environments. That is just as offensive as seniors living in deplorable conditions. Then there is the issue of handicapped accessible housing, it is short supply. It would be nice if everyone worked together for the benefit of all, the BOS, private developers, non-profits, and citizens to work towards ensuring everyone has suitable housing. I know, a pipe dream, but as a Mouse addict I think of Walt Disney, it all started with a dream.......

128Commuter wrote:

I am definately for a recall of the entire BOS.  Mr Cruz, this is your time to at the very least speak up. 

Well look at it this way, it won't be boring around here leading up to the April elections.  What political theater!

So true...but a brief intermission might have been nice. Frankenstein won't die!!!

PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

They have town counsel lolling into the legality of the ballot . What is this costing us? Recall now !

Hamatron5000 wrote:

Ham declares this an outrage!! The people have spoken no less than three times on this issue already!  Resign!  Recall!  AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!  An outrage, I say!  An outrage!  Scumbag selectmen resign immediately!!!

That's the word that popped into the memory circuits of all Hamatrons, Hamatron5000.

I am Hamatron5000!

PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

There will be no resignations......These folks are in a different universe....A universe that  has them as the rulers of a  helpless populous.   We are, to them, as if the peasantry who fled other parts of the world and came to America.....rabble.

Rise up Wareham  !!

Why have they continued to piss away money, disburse funds beyond the required limits without a board of trustees in place, etc, etc., etc.???

You called it Ham. SelectBozos.


PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

marny wrote:

To bad the ACLU doesn't deal with these kind of issues.

They are advocates for individual rights.   Take back Wareham are three words used to describe our feelings.  We do not have a list of members that I know of.  There may be a list of individuals who feel the same way.  We want to take Wareham back from the people who are running it into the ground.  We are soon to be bankrupt if we allow them to continue spending blindly and without the public's - you & me - knowledge.  We want to take the curtain off the BOS's secrets.

The ACLU is there to protect us when our voting rights are challenged.  That is a quote.    What the BOS are planning is a challenge to our voting rights.  They have totally ignored how we voted.  The law is the law. 

What harm would a letter do?  Maybe they can point us in a different direction.  Maybe the Wall Street Journal will put us on the front page again.  I am feeling insulted by the no good, self-centered, egotistical Village Idiots.

Our form of government is not working because the people running it are totally out of control.

wareham pride wrote:

"According to Sauvageau, plans to form an evaluation committee for the five proposals previously received for Westfield will continue despite the events at Town Meeting. "

I must have missed this, but when did they request proposals for Westfield?  Was this put out to bid? Advertised?  Maybe it was when I was working 2 jobs this summer.

Cara Winslow wrote:

I know I was totally on the fence about Bay Pointe up until I voted, I listened carefully to what was said and tried to make the best decision. I admit, that was a tough one for me! But, knowing it will come back to TM as a plan gave me some security. Westfield did not have to come back to TM unless they wanted to use CPA funds, that made me nervous. I personally would like to see the BOS put together a committee to study housing issues for seniors, families and those that are disabled. There are children in our midst who live in disgraceful environments. That is just as offensive as seniors living in deplorable conditions. Then there is the issue of handicapped accessible housing, it is short supply. It would be nice if everyone worked together for the benefit of all, the BOS, private developers, non-profits, and citizens to work towards ensuring everyone has suitable housing. I know, a pipe dream, but as a Mouse addict I think of Walt Disney, it all started with a dream.......

Not a pipe dream, possibly a reality.  I don't always agree (silently) to what you blog, but by no means is anything you say offensive or off the wall.  I agree to disagree.  I hate the sound of "another study".  It has been over used for the last few years, but yes, something needs to be done.  We have multiple children living in motel rooms with one or two parents. Not the healthiest environment during flu season.  I wonder how many seniors need housing and for what reason.  Some can't take care of the cleaning aspect of their larger homes, while others have problems with heating costs.  It isn't always deplorable conditions.  Some are alone and afraid to be.  It would be nice to see them rent a room to another senior or someone younger that could help with cleaning &  utilities and just knowing someone else is in the house would be a comfort.  This isn't for everyone, but surely a few seniors might make this happen.  I have heard from several seniors I know, that their homes are big and upkeep is expensive but they won't downsize because their children from miles to states away, won't have a place to stay when they visit.   Another problem is with rentals.  Yes, money is tight for most of us, but a rental property owner would rather let a home sit vacant for a year, than go down on his rent.  I just don't get it.  Find a family, come down on the rent, at least you will pay the taxes and have a little to bank.  A friend needed a place in Wareham, close to work.  A stable job, a professional who just bought a new car, was asked to come up with over $6,000 for 1st, last and security.  This friend went to Bourne.  The house is still vacant, for over a year now.  Don't give up your dream.  Hopefully, we will have a new, better BOS soon, that will be willing to sit down and talk before we need to call for a study.

Are you asking for FACTS? Or perhaps you are asking for EVIDENCE?  There was NO DEAL and everyone knows it. I have no idea who the Bay Pointe people are. I heard them speak in front of the bos. I can form my own opinion and my vote is never coerced.

Don't hold your breath waiting for the truth. The very fact that ragboy is the mouthpiece of the selectmen should be enough to convince the rest of you to stop reading this piece of garbage and this pack of lies.

I'm still asking people to give up the ghost of this rag. One of my friends who admitted he occasionally peaks at the online pay for view totally free site laughs at how many full articles are posted there now. No one is reading the hard copy, so really all he has is a pathetic blog of people who agree that those of us who went to town meeting and voted our convictions are ugly and have black hearts. That's sick.

ONE MORE TIME---BOYCOTT THIS PIECE OF S#@T. IT IS NOT WORTH YOUR TIME TO READ THE LIES AND FABRICATIONS. PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE GIVEN US EVIDENCE OF THOSE LIES AND GIVEN US THE FACTS AS PROOF.

How much longer are we going to let that worthless rag be a part of our lives? I say we make a clean sweep. Get rid of the bos, the town moderator, the clerk--and the rag. Let's all do it this time.

128...I agree with you it should happen quickly, but, if you look at the process of recall in the Charter, it takes at least 60 days, probably more, by the time signatures are gathered, submitted, voted on, petitions announced, etc. April gives you plenty of time and allows you to sweep the whole group out.

I can't speak for "TakeBackWareham" as I'm simply a supporter of the just cause of removing our current leadership with professional, mature, civil and fiscally responsible individuals.  As another citizen in Wareham that recognizes
the situation for what it is (A TRAIN WRECK), I will continue to participate in any and all efforts to remove and replace our leaders.  They have proven over
and over that the will of the people is not worthy and this latest announcement by their mouthpiece, Bobo, has put the "nail in the coffin". 

The questions needing answers are:
1. Where in the laws that govern our community is there a mechanism to circumvent the vote of the people and instead suggest that a question on the ballot provides some alternative to ignore the decision of town meeting ?

2. As IHS asks, where is this "so-called" evidence AND even if there was some sort of exchange of support for any or all Articles, SO WHAT ?  Welcome to the United States of America and the term known as politics.  Like it or leave it. 

3. Hypothetically, what if the BOS got all of their agenda passed by the same spread of 50-60 votes because they got more of "their" voters to attend TM ?
Would this same reporting be amoung us on behalf of the losing side ?  I think not.  It's evident that they are simply using their mouthpiece again to force their agenda down the throats of the more vulnerable peeople, the seniors.  Yet the seniors are the very section of Wareham citizens they have tried to suggest are the ones their representing.

Of the proposed $30 Million dollar improvement, Wareham would have ONLY realized a dozen (12) or so truly "affordable" units for our senior population.
If instead we reconstruct Agawam, we would realize 40 + fully affordable recognized senior units for far less of an investment.  Talk about good business sense.

While Bobo has tried to spin this to suggest that some supposed "deal" was exposed, he should disclose his source or sources.  My guess is that he can't because there are none.  As usual, it's just a headline in an effort to sell his trash tabloid.

Lastly, Brucey continues to show his true colors and proves once again he's not worthy of leading.  He must go and as I've said many times now, April can't come soon enough.

Simple question: Is there a legal alternative to fight this? It appears we have elected officials spending our tax dollars without our approval. If there is a bill from any legal office to render an opinion on Bruce's attempt to include defeated articles at the next election, then we didn't approve it.

Could we start a recall now and piggy back the election on the Ted Kennedy replacement election in January? The state is paying for the cost of that election. No cost to the town and a clean sweep of the people who think we are ugly and have black hearts. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

SOMEBODY BETTER LET SELECTMAN CRUZ THAT HE IS PART OF THE BAYPOINT CONSPIRACY SINCE HE VOTED FOR BAY POINTE.

Ahhh....the wisdom of Dick Wheeler. Follow the money!!

Go raibh maith agat le haghaidh do scéal spreagadh, fear mo Boru maith!

PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

tá fáilte romhat

" This man isn't about senior housing,he is about Westfield."   In jest I say, "Close, but no cigar!"   It's about money!  There has to be a Bobo, Bozo, Developer X  $$$$$ connection!   Bobo is trying to distract us from the increasingly obvious  Westfield $cam with his mythical Bay Pointe scenario.  As someone who grew up in a family of lobstermen, I have a high tolerance for smelly fish bait....But this Westfield  ploy has me holding my nose !  Make no mistake....Bobo is also in on this very $melly deal....

Dick Wheeler wrote:

" This man isn't about senior housing,he is about Westfield."   In jest I say, "Close, but no cigar!"   It's about money!  There has to be a Bobo, Bozo, Developer X  $$$$$ connection!   Bobo is trying to distract us from the increasingly obvious  Westfield $cam with his mythical Bay Pointe scenario.  As someone who grew up in a family of lobstermen, I have a high tolerance for smelly fish bait....But this Westfield  ploy has me holding my nose !  Make no mistake....Bobo is also in on this very $melly deal....

PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM

Dick Wheeler wrote:

" This man isn't about senior housing,he is about Westfield."   In jest I say, "Close, but no cigar!"   It's about money!  There has to be a Bobo, Bozo, Developer X  $$$$$ connection!   Bobo is trying to distract us from the increasingly obvious  Westfield $cam with his mythical Bay Pointe scenario.  As someone who grew up in a family of lobstermen, I have a high tolerance for smelly fish bait....But this Westfield  ploy has me holding my nose !  Make no mistake....Bobo is also in on this very $melly deal....

This must be family night.  You know, that I know, all about that smell myself, friend of my Dad.  Living closer to Westfield than you, the smell is ripe.  I said in a blog somewhere on this site today that when Westfield (Bruceborough) is completed, they will need on site management staff.  A job for Bruce to manage and a home and office job for Brenda.  How nice.  Do you think that Cronin took a break for a while because of that smelly fish bait?  Do you think he is trying to figure out how not to be implicated in what is going on behind the scenes.  Unfortunately, Jane believes him. Mr Cruz has had 40 years of construction experience.  Why doesn't he speak up?

Cara Winslow wrote:

I know I was totally on the fence about Bay Pointe up until I voted, I listened carefully to what was said and tried to make the best decision. I admit, that was a tough one for me! But, knowing it will come back to TM as a plan gave me some security. Westfield did not have to come back to TM unless they wanted to use CPA funds, that made me nervous. I personally would like to see the BOS put together a committee to study housing issues for seniors, families and those that are disabled. There are children in our midst who live in disgraceful environments. That is just as offensive as seniors living in deplorable conditions. Then there is the issue of handicapped accessible housing, it is short supply. It would be nice if everyone worked together for the benefit of all, the BOS, private developers, non-profits, and citizens to work towards ensuring everyone has suitable housing. I know, a pipe dream, but as a Mouse addict I think of Walt Disney, it all started with a dream.......

Cara, hang on to that dream.  There's always a way. The one benefit that has grown out of  the BOS outrageous behavior and their squandering of tax dollars is the banding together of a large group of people in Wareham who share your dream and have a few of their own.  All those volunteers and generous donations will come pouring in. Now that the "bad guys" have our attention, let's show the world that we mean business.  I have no doubt that the "good guys" will help your dreams come true.

Thanks Waterview, my first "real" jobout of college was working in a homeless shelter and I was responsible for helping people find apprpriae housing.
It is an issue near and dear to my heart. I do hope you are right!