#1 2009-10-20 19:25:15
"Chief, Sweet Brucey here, yes, this all sounds good, but when will you have a selectman-ass-kissing course for your officers? I think that's really the most important. Oh, and if you could have a class on looking the other way when I have road rage problems, that'd be great too."
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#2 2009-10-20 19:39:33
I like what I'm hearing from him as far as changes being implemented.
But supporting the BoS in their attempt to remove Civil Service, as he did at the OPL mtg, and that other meeting, is difficult for me to accept. Is it just me, but isn't him voicing his support (or lack of, for that matter), inappropriate?
Maybe if he was an option as FT Chief, it would make more sense to me. The changes he's implementing, and suggesting make sense to me whether he's gone in April (or whatever), or not. I hope it all happens with Civil Service in place. Then all the training officers are doing might actually lead toward potential advancement to Chief.
The BoS want to control the decision, like everything else (Westfield, library, etc., etc.)
I'm not a police officer, and these are just my views. I apologize in advance if I'm "missing something"
Would love to hear from Capt C on this. I believe he/you seemed supportive of the interim Chief, but your views on CS/No CS, I don't recall.
PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM
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#3 2009-10-20 19:39:58
Joking aside, Chief Stanley is actually impressing me quite a bit with this presentation. But at the same time, if anything, this should show people why they need a trained law enforcement professional running the police department, not a group of scumbag selectmen with their heads up their asses. Vote NO on Article 5.
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#4 2009-10-20 19:44:49
Geez, look at this list of crimes, all this time listening to Brucey and Brockton Brenda you'd think the cops were drinking coffee all day.
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#5 2009-10-20 19:48:48
Wow, bulldozing crappy buildings...ok he's winning me over.
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#6 2009-10-20 19:52:10
Something tells me Sweet Brucey is not giving the police department any accolades.
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#7 2009-10-20 19:53:16
Chief Stanley is saying that he hasn't seen any political interference from the selectmen. Of course not. They like him. The concern is if there's a chief who they dont like for some arbitrary reason, and they force him/her out. Slightly different situation....
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#8 2009-10-20 19:53:35
Hamatron5000 wrote:
Geez, look at this list of crimes, all this time listening to Brucey and Brockton Brenda you'd think the cops were drinking coffee all day.
Yeah, except for the "Harass Poor Sweet Brucey" unit. They're straight out all the time.
He's going to take ALL the credit for any support IChief Stanley gets. "Brucey's so smart, see the great things I bring to the Town", and he "knows who I am", "we're tight, like pb&j"
He's figuring out how he's going to spout off how fantastic Stanley is, and therefore him, by bringing him to Town.
"Hail Sweet Brucey!" ...I'm gonna puke now.
PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM
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#9 2009-10-20 19:55:10
Oh Christ, now we have to hear the selectmen pretend to be great crimefighters.
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#10 2009-10-20 19:57:00
Where's 1930's Gangster Cronie?
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#12 2009-10-20 19:57:47
Oh god...Sweet Brucey the Crimefighter.
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#13 2009-10-20 19:58:18
Please note, Wareham Community TV's Select Board Broadcast Live addressing changed last week. The sidebar link for it should now reflect that but keep a close watch. I suspect it'll change again without notice.
http://hwcdn.net/q4q9u5y5/wls/115984-cdn2.asx
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#14 2009-10-20 19:58:36
Too little, too late Sweet Brucey. Too little, too late. Take your apology, stick it up your Brucey ass.
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#16 2009-10-20 20:00:11
Where are you going to put a police station when Westfield is filled with apartment units, dumbass?
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#17 2009-10-20 20:01:14
My God - is this the strategy now, "A KINDLER, GENTLER BRUCEY?"
My crystal balls predict a sloppy slathery puckered up ass kissing cheer for the ages for Sweet Brucey straight from Bobo the Rump Swab.
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#18 2009-10-20 20:02:29
"Hello, this is Sweet Brucey and I want to apologize, it's just that I get really pissed off when the police tries to hold me accountable for my crimes just like you little people."
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#19 2009-10-20 20:03:54
Hello town administrator candidate....please get on your knees and demonstrate your Brucey butt smooching technique.
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#21 2009-10-20 20:10:47
"We like to keep our TA's (preferably Interim), around for a year or so, blame them for all the "stuff" we mess up, and send them on their way. Don't worry, you can later sue us and get paid, anyway. It's a pretty sweet deal. Are you game?"
PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM
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#22 2009-10-20 20:17:34
These are some of the worst interview questions that I've ever heard. "Tell me about your communication skills". Basically, that question is "make up some crap that lets us think you'll be our lackey". Haven't these people heard of behavioral interviewing? This is ridiculous
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#23 2009-10-20 20:18:39
"then you make choices on (which media outlets) you'll communicate with"
This guy will fit right in....
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#24 2009-10-20 20:18:40
Town administrator candidate, what is your ass kissing technique? Do you adhere to the traditional "left cheek to right cheek" strategy, or do you go for the more bold "kiss both cheeks at the same time" approach?
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#25 2009-10-20 20:19:42
And where the hell is Cronie? Something must be up with Cronie if he's missing TA interviews...
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#26 2009-10-20 20:21:43
I don't know, orange shirt man, I like my town administrator candidates to wear a tie...
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#27 2009-10-20 20:22:41
I take that back...on closer look he appears to have an orange tie...orange on orange. Oh well, not every joke can be a winner.
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#30 2009-10-20 20:28:13
"Town administrator candidate, you should probably get to know that bagel chomping odd-haired barracuda jacket wearing 105 year old looking reporter back there...he'll be ripping you a new one and blaming all of my Sweet Brucey mistakes on you...basically we don't need a town administrator so much as a human flack jacket/ lightning rod to divert the heat off us..."
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#31 2009-10-20 20:28:31
Did Bruce just say "We fired......."?
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#32 2009-10-20 20:29:56
Can you imagine a conversation between bruce and this guy? whew....
I have a question for him:
How do you communicate to the Selectmen that they spend too much money on legal expenses and want to fire anyone who opposes them?
Sidenote: Lose the orange shirt....
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#33 2009-10-20 20:32:13
Oh, buddy, the chain of command is Brucey, Brucey, Brucey...and then Brucey.
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#35 2009-10-20 20:44:06
"Town administrator candidate, would you be ok with granting interviews to Paul Shooter on a regular basis? And as our local Ragman continues to descend into madness, would you mind giving interviews to other figments of his imagination as well?"
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#36 2009-10-20 20:44:38
I just tuned back in, this new guy seems confident, sure of himself, appears to know what he is doing, unlikely to do much butt kissing.
In other words...NEXT!
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#38 2009-10-20 20:59:05
I am a bit surprised that candidate # 2 is here......... Our bond rating is A3, we need a stable management team and money in the bank!
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#39 2009-10-20 20:59:18
"What strategies do you find motivate employees the best...because the best idea we've had so far is having the Ragman rip them new ones every week and you'd be surprised how not motivating that is..."
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#40 2009-10-20 21:04:11
Why are they hiring a new building inspector, did they fire Ted?
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#43 2009-10-20 21:10:04
No He is retireing in January
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#44 2009-10-20 21:20:20
Candidate # 2
His first name is Robert, I never heard a last name from him or the BoS. Is he like Prince, only one name?
If I heard his brief bio correctly, it sounded as tho he worked in Dennis thru 2008. And since? Graduate school at Suffolk U.?
Was he ever the actual TA. or the Asst TA, and the iTA. Wasn't clear to me.
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#45 2009-10-20 21:22:54
Candidate # 3
Never a TA. Same with # 1. Both of these two worked primarily for others, is that what the BoS is seeking?
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#46 2009-10-20 21:28:10
Why is everyone so short? Geeez....where are the tall candidates? The third candidate they most really like. He uses Uhmmm about as much as Saguinet.
Okay, I've hired enough managers in my life and these questions are not the questions they need to ask.
1. We have a divided community and our boards are filled with cronies and lackeys. How do we convince the people this is normal operating procedures?
2. How do you feel about BOS interference in day to day activities?
3. We have been an inferior BOS for quite some time. Do you like us? Do you really really like us?
4. We want to open government to the people, but we also like to hold illegal executive sessions, how do we this without people noticing?
5. Can you grow a nifty goatee like Saguinet.
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#47 2009-10-20 21:32:51
Did anyone see Brucey and the Halifax Hack talking just before the break? I wonder if any real journalists are granted the same access?
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#48 2009-10-20 21:33:31
Brenda do you have a follow up? Uhmmmmm
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#49 2009-10-20 21:35:00
Candidate # 3
Positive comments about libraries, how many demerits for that?
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#50 2009-10-20 21:43:47
# 2 was the ITA many years ago and then became TA of Dennis.
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#51 2009-10-20 21:45:07
"Sweet Brucey, it's Bobo, I just want to come up here kiss your butt and congratulate you on your Sweet Brucey mea culpa..."
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#52 2009-10-20 21:45:43
Plymouth did not hire a new Town Manager tonight, they are starting their search again.
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#53 2009-10-20 21:48:37
acasualobserver wrote:
Chief Stanley is saying that he hasn't seen any political interference from the selectmen. Of course not. They like him. The concern is if there's a chief who they dont like for some arbitrary reason, and they force him/her out. Slightly different situation....
I agree. The chief has not been here long enough to become at odds with the selectmen so that is why he has not experienced political interference. The selectmen and the Halifax blogger loved former Town Administrator McAuliffe at first too. But as soon as they disagreed on certain issues the war began and he was fired.
The chief is doing a great job and should be commended for that. But he won't be here long and the selectmen know that and they like him so they are not going to interfere. Take the patrol rifle issue for example. "Patrol Rifle" is police lingo for an assault rifle. The new chief is making sure the patrol rifles are taken out of the station and placed into police cruisers so they are out on the street and immediately accessible to the officers. Out on the street is where the patrol rifles belong because the gangbanger with the AK-47, Tech-9, shotgun, etc., isn't going to wait for the police to go back to the station and get the patrol rifles. Now with that being said, consider this. What if Chief Joyce decided to put patrol rifles in the cruisers? The selectmen would have fought him tooth and nail and the Halifax blogger would have wrote frightful articles about assault rifle toting police officers with itchy trigger fingers. You know it, and I know it! But since the selectmen do not have a personal grudge with the new chief they are letting him do what he wants. The current chief is not going to be around much longer and his replacement is going to need the protection of civil service to protect him from unjustified punishment for the inevitable conflicts with this board of selectmen.
As for Bruce's apology. Too little, too late!
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#54 2009-10-20 21:50:27
Hamatron5000 wrote:
My God - is this the strategy now, "A KINDLER, GENTLER BRUCEY?"
My crystal balls predict a sloppy slathery puckered up ass kissing cheer for the ages for Sweet Brucey straight from Bobo the Rump Swab.
I too have been noticing how much nicer he has been to everyone during the past few weeks; plus he wears suits rather than his underwear to meetings these days.
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#55 2009-10-20 21:55:46
Cara,
Where are you getting the info on the Plymouth situation?
Thank you.
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#56 2009-10-20 22:00:06
TBL wrote:
But he won't be here long and the selectmen know that and they like him so they are not going to interfere. Take the patrol rifle issue for example. "Patrol Rifle" is police lingo for an assault rifle. The new chief is making sure the patrol rifles are taken out of the station and placed into police cruisers so they are out on the street and immediately accessible to the officers. Out on the street is where the patrol rifles belong because the gangbanger with the AK-47, Tech-9, shotgun, etc., isn't going to wait for the police to go back to the station and get the patrol rifles. Now with that being said, consider this. What if Chief Joyce decided to put patrol rifles in the cruisers? The selectmen would have fought him tooth and nail and the Halifax blogger would write frightful articles about assault rifle toting police officers with itchy trigger fingers. You know it, and I know it!
As for Bruce's apology. Too little, too late
Yup.
PShooter
TAKEBACKWAREHAM
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#57 2009-10-20 22:00:31
The only sincere apology from Brucey would be a resignation. They want to Move Wareham Forward? Get Brucey to resign.
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#58 2009-10-20 22:02:27
Something worth pointing out about the chief's slide show presentation is that the problems he identified had to do primarily with issues related to training, equipment, obsolete police station, etc. In the past the board of selectmen would have everybody believe that the problems were with the police officers themselves, excessive force, racism, false arrest, etc. Yes there were and are problems with the police department, but they are not the kind of problems that the selectmen would have everybody believe.
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#59 2009-10-20 22:05:02
www.wickedlocal.com/plymouth
There is also a live feed which I watched but the debate is over now.
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#60 2009-10-20 22:10:37
OK Bruce is starting to show his old nasty behavior again. Why won't he let Jane make complete statements? Always interrupts. Now here's Brenda saying nothing and he doesn't interrupt her. Get rid the the ssssss
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#62 2009-10-20 22:11:47
HaHa Brenda's is trying to tell sweet brucie what he should do...and now he's ssssssssing again.
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#63 2009-10-20 22:13:13
Could Brenda be any more obsequious than Brenda?
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#65 2009-10-20 22:14:40
Cara,
Thank you.
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