I do believe that if Brady rented the room for a period of time, then it is his room to do what he pleases and the law is on his side.  But if moving to a location on private property would blow Bobo the Hobo's attempts to crush dissent against his BOS masters out of the water, then it may not be a terrible idea.

Keep in mind, they try to toss Bill out of publicly posted open selectmen's meeting every chance they get.

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urneighbor wrote:

I assume the church meetings at the school are open to anybody.

But couldn't church folk who have church meetings at school ban Satanists from coming to a church meeting in a school room they have rented?

Not that I'm comparing Bobo to a Satanist, but I would think that groups that rent public spaces have the right to ban the opposite of their group from coming into the room they have rented.  Along that line of reasoning, a group of people that are critical of Sweet Brucey should be able to ban Sweet Brucey's biggest cheerleader.

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All I know is from some other towns where any meeting held in a town owned building, no matter who sponsors it, has to be open to anybody.

I assume there must be exceptions for plays and concerts where you need to buy tickets, and weddings where only invited guests are allowed.

As for the somewhat cryptic Editor's note from The Wicked Local Courier, I can see where David R. Smith is coming from.

I think he shouldn't have assumed "everyone" knows who he means when he writes " the decision is rooted in the fear that the presence of at least one local paper (any guesses which one?) would scare people away," and then calling it "that paper". For all a casual reader knows he's referring to himself.

Can't we all have a decent level of journalism here?

"That paper" is the Wareham Observer, owned, published, written and edited by Robert Slager.

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I still think its Brady's room to do as he pleases if he rented it, but what the hell, if meeting on private property shuts them up, may not be a bad idea.  They're already talking on the ST site blogs about trying to get the town government to shut the meeting down altogether.

Oh such fear of anti-BOS criticism.  It speaks volumes!

I was reading the comments under the story about the meeting on the ST site.

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbc … 015/TOWN14

I don't have any issue with David Smith, so I wasn't being critical of him or saying that he needed to shut up. 

This is all really much ado about nothing.  When it comes down to it, Bobo and the Hypocrite Crew own the public dialog, on any issue, they declare a fictional truth and shout down any who question it as being self interested power elitists.  People who have criticism of the BOS are tired of never being able to get a word in edgewise.  For Bobo the blowhard to claim disenfranchisement is laughable.

But screw it, let the douche come, just maybe demand he wear a paper bag on his head so that those in attendance don't constantly feel the need to vomit when they catch a glimpse of his butt ugly head.

If Slager comes will he bring a personal armed body guard?

Mr Brady is renting the space, I will support HIS invited guest LIST. As taxpayers we pay for that building too, I don't have kids in the Wareham school system so using the room for a few hours does not make me feel bad.

In terms of the press, if he wants to invite the press then do so, but Observer Media cannot just report on something without adding his hate, misleading comments. Invite the "real"reporters if any.

Imagine Observer Media suggesting that the Cape Verdean community, because WE elected Mr Cruz, should somehow not be welcome?????

The Cape Verdean community has done nothing to you Observer Media, except live in a community, where they actively participate, work, pay taxes and contribute to a better quality of living for all of us. YOU SHOULD BA ASHAMED OF YOURSELF for including them in your hate comments. I for one am very proud to have Mr Cruz on our BOS.

AND IN MY OPINION YOPU SHOULD ISSUE THE CAPE VERDEAN COMMUNIY A HUGE APOLOGY ON THE FREE PORTION OF YOUR SITE.

Good day "fellow citizens",
I've deliberately stayed somewhat quiet for a few days but now I feel you should hear from me that nothing has changed since I last posted, as to who is welcome to attend on Thursday evening.  First and foremost, no media.
Upon the results of the turnout together with any input (identities excluded)
all media entities will be provided with the same press release.  Read each over the weekend or as reported and determine for yourself, comparing all three or more; especially if you attend, as to which has an accurate representation of the event.
 
There has been a significant ranting and raving by at least on media venue suggesting that this has the like of a "dictatorship" flavor, somehow some racism, possibly elitist overtones and so on.  Let me assure all that this meeting is open to all citizens (not just registered voters) who share unhappiness with the leadership and desire a new direction for OUR community.  Its that simple.  It is not a debate and there will be NO disruptions. 

I've even reached out to the many business owners I know to at least come witness and share any concerns, which many of them have.  Like, why don't we market our community ?  promote tourism ?  offer shoreline programs ? etc...
Instead, there is nothing but negative overtures coming from at least one reporter who would be the first to blame everyone other than the elected officials for all the turmoil in town.

I suspect that most of our town employees won't attend for fear of retribution and/or retaliation.  That in itself is sad and unacceptable.  None of our public service men and woman should fear our elected officials.  That is much of the problem.  Talk about dictatorship.  ???

As for the media, one of the "local" journalists has been hounding (borderline harassing) me for comment.  While I know he lurks here for input, there it is.
No media for the last time.  I hope he doesn't further embarrass himself by insisting on attending.

Mr. Oconnell, with utmost due respect, my objective is attendance and participation.  I don't wish to compromise meeting my goal because of fear of retaliation or retribution.  (We can't afford another audit.) Hell, we couldn't afford the first one but that doesn't matter to this administration.

See you on Thursday.
Bob Brady

Mr Brady, my only question for you is where do you draw the line of "media"?  Is it just the 3 papers, or do people who post on here count as media?  In terms of legitimacy of the medium, the observer is, at this point, basically a blog.  It's one guy who posts his opinion on things that he may or may not be informed about.  How does that make him different than a blogger?  Are you going to ask that the bloggers on this site do not post about anything they see while in attendance?  How about twitter/facebook/etc?  All of these are forms of media, and I don't see how they can be banned.  Is it only Wareham town citizens?  How about summer residents?  While I appreciate the reasoning behind your position, the position itself is a bit fuzzy.

Hey, if they ever want to catch the Pro-BOS meeting where no dissent is allowed, they hold them every Tuesday night at the Multi-Service Center.  If they miss it and want to catch the Pro-BOS replay where no dissent is allowed, they can pony up 5 bucks for a subscription to the BOS' de facto press secretary.

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Okay,
I'm tired of the angry "hate bloggers" on S-T. It's obvious their agenda is disrupt this meeting and preach how "it might get ugly".

Searay,
I agree that the comment Slager made was wrong, but he has a way of walking away from comments that cause problems by spinning it. They will keep trying to disrupt the meeting and the effort, but that just brings more people to the realization we need change.

Larry I agree, I think we are going to set a great foundation with this meeting, and hope that this turns into a series of meetngs where the citizens are finally free to speak.

One topic that probably does not need to come up on Thursday, but I am beginning to research for our next meeting is the next multi million dollar Westfield project.

I have detected a push by the BOS not to have to bring this up at Town Meeting...I smell a rat here...KandP and the consultant Richard have both said that they need 2/3 of a vote at town meeting to dispose of the land, however between now and that point in time the BOS seem to think they can spend money on this only to shame the 2/3 vote after the money has been spent....more to follow at a later date

The only satisfactory apology for Ragboy to give for stirring racial tensions ( i.e. a pathetic attempt at race baiting just to keep a meeting critical of the BOS from happening) is for him to shut down his paper and resign. 

Bobo and the BOS crew's response to this meeting is hilarious.  So much fear from them, I've never seen anything like it.  They know the tide is turning.  As more and more citizens get involved, the grassroots movement will eventually lead to new selectmen outside of their circle of friends joining the BOS - and with that will come a much needed spotlight shown on their actions.

They fear that more than anything, that's why they'll do anything to crush chances like this for citizens to voice their opinions.

The most sensible soul on this site said it best in March:

TBL wrote:

I want to know what Slager's brain washed robots are saying. It is very entertaining.

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All publicity is good publicity. Thanks Mr. Slager.

There have been reports that questionnaires will be provided to those who plan to attend the meeting. Admission will allegedly be based on Brady’s approval to the responses.

    The American Civil Liberties Union is now reportedly investigating the matter. A protest is being planned outside the middle school for residents who are banned from this event. Local television stations have reportedly been invited to cover the protest.

All this is before anybody was actually turned away from the meeting... assuring possibly television news coverage.

Ok Grandpa Bobo, thanks for playing, go screw yourself, sorry that criticism of the selectmen will occur and you won't be able to intimidate people out of talking or be able to do damage control and spin truth into lies to protect your buddies.

I know it scares the shit out of you, but grassroots meetings like this will put the truth out and eventually that will lead to new selectmen joining the board and gaining the power to investigate and shine a spotlight on your pals' misdeeds.

Keep lying about racism and the ACLU, nobody's listening, they just realize how pathetically scared you are of the public discovering the truth that you've been trying to hide.

Thanks for playing, go kiss Sweet Brucey's butt.

I'll tell you what, how about we compromise here?

We won't let Bobo in, but we will let whoever the reporter is in that interviews Bobo in these unattributed "news" articles with no byline where Bobo is quoted.

I think that is fair.

So what's the over under on the "ACLU investigation" being Bobo doublespeak for he sent them an email?

What makes anyone think that private meetings are illegal?

The principle of the school said that the person who rents the space has the right to determine who uses the space. The school committee has adopted a policy to make some extra money out of renting out space for meetings. This has been done in the past and no one has insisted on barging in to those private meetings just because they are held in a school. In fact, I give the school committee points for trying to bring in some revenue to help taxpayers with the burden of running the school.

Mr Brady has said no media. Period. That is his right. He also said it is intended for people who want change in Wareham.

I can't imagine he is going to be grilling each person who comes in to see if they support the bos or not. How crazy would that be? He said it is not a debate, so if people begin debating the issues, he has every right to put a stop to it.

Why would anyone who supports the bos and thinks this town is well-run even WANT to come to this meeting anyway?

LET THEM HAVE THEIR OWN MEETING---instead of TAKE BACK WAREHAM they can have a LET'S KEEP WAREHAM GOING TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET--meeting of their own. Why should we care? Let them knock themselves out. It is their right to do so, but not on our time.

Not to be facetious, but would black people want to attend a KKK meeting? Would Jewish people want to attend a Nazi skin head gathering? Would Republicans want to attend a Donahue Democratic function? In case you didn't get it this time either, Ms. Lilly, these are analogies to prove my point. I am not being a racist, bigot, or Donahue democrat here.

So, if you don't want to see Wareham change, stay home. Plain and simple. Too much is being made of this and once again, it is ragboy stirring up mud where there was none. Don't let him get to you. Ignore him.

Let's get on with the business of saving Wareham and making it a better place to live.

Slager plans to attend "along with hundreds of other residents"  Someone needs to inform him that sleeping on the couch in his office in Buzzards Bay does not qualify him as a resident or taxpayer in Wareham.

There should be no fear of character assassinations or retribution, as it will come from only the Observer and the BOS. There glass ceiling has cracked and they are in the minority now. No one believes them anymore. Except a SMALL group of nut jobs.

Town employees, political adversaries, public town figures... Have you not already been the victims of the BOS/Observer assassination game? And this meeting hadn't even happened yet!

There is NO reason not to attend if you want to TAKE BACK WAREHAM!

Let them mock you. Let them attack your character. Let them disrupt this meeting. It will only make THEM look worse!

Ham,
I only wish people like TheBigRock and LenSkynyrd would use their real name. These threats of violence and the the suggestion that there will be violence is absurd and a trademark of the current Selectmen. Anything to disrupt the meeting because they fear people have had enough. After all the nonsense they preach about the "power elite", they are exactly what they keep ranting about. When it is all said and done, they will still be bitter fools.

LET US HAVE OUR MEETING AND YOU NUT JOBS CAN HAVE YOURS. I CAN SEE IT NOW. TIN FOIL HATS WILL BE ISSUED AT THE DOOR TO PREVENT MIND CONTROLLING DEVICES INTERFERRING WITH THE DEBATE. SLAGER WILL CLAIM THE POWER ELITE DOWNLOADED A VIRUS ON HIS COMPUTER WHILE HE WAS WATCHING A PORN VIDEO. SEVERAL PEOPLE WILL CLAIM THEY WERE PROBED BY ALIENS DURING THEIR ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING.

THEY WILL BE PROBED BY ALIENS LOOKING FOR BRAINS  AND WII NOT FIND ANYTHING BUT COBWEBS.

I would note that 2 of the (6 or more) witnesses of the infamous Crimewatchmobile incident stated on this website that they planned to come to this meeting.  Bobo's rantings started right after that.  How much of this just a smokescreen to keep the public from finding out the truth of what their buddy did on that fateful day?  Is this all really just an attempt to scare people who saw what their buddy did from talking?  Shameful.



This lunatic claims to stand up for decency, but defends prostitution solicitation on the grounds that it happened a long time ago, as if that somehow makes it better.

As a McCarthy critic once said, and I amend it for Wareham's Bobo McCarthy - "Have you no decency, sir?  Have you no decency?"

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I wonder why BoBo is so attracted to bullies.

anybody see the updated article on the rag?  Claims that the BoS posted an open meeting at the middle school for the same time as the community meeting, and that all are welcome to the BoS meeting.  Also quotes sweet brucie saying that the BoS will be at the community meeting to listen.  Any predictions on how this all turns out?

What? how can they post a meeting at the same time when that room has been reserved by Mr. Brady? This is too crazy.

What doe Barry R. say about this? How can the selectmen post a meeting when there is no room available? If the selectmen are using the room, then I guess Mr. Brady can get his $$$ back and reschedule his meeting in a private venue at another time.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW SCREWED UP THIS TOWN IS. Citizens cannot even hold a meeting without harassment from the local tabloid and the town's officials.

If they had any class or any brains, they would say--"of course our political opponents can meet privately. This is a free and democratic society. It is not a country where the media is controlled by those in power and where anyone who dissents from the status quo is punished. Wareham is a town government for the people and by the people. If some of Wareham's citizens want to meet in an effort to improve their town, they should have the right to do so."

But no way will you hear those words from ragboy and the bos. The reality is we DO live in Wareham and that means that we are not being allowed to meet without being hassled. One might ask---what are they afraid of?

Yet another reason to throw the bums out.

Where's Perry White when you need him?

When is Slager going to learn to put updates above his articles and date them (both) instead of shoe-horning updates into existing articles?

How can a reader tell what the update is unless it's delineated? All other online papers and blogs use dates and times when updates are added.

This guy just doesn't need an editor to help him write, he needs someone with basic common sense to make his blog readable.

Even Jimmy Olsen would do a better job.

Didn't a previous Board of Selectman receive a strong reprimand for violating the Open Meeting Rule by using the telephone or e-mail to try to oust Sweet Brucie as the Chairperson?   If all five of the selectman have been called or e-mailed to setup a special meeting at the school, it would appear that the Open Meeting Rule has been violated again.  They should have made the decision to conduct a special meeting at the last regularly scheduled open meeting.

Hey!  I thought this meeting was for taxpayers!  Pony up $181,000 by Thursday Sweet Brucey, or stay home.

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Sorry Sweet Brucey, it's a taxpayer only meeting.  Sorry Bobo, it's a people who are paid up on any fees they owe to the state meeting.